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"Rodeos, bullfights and circuses are culture."
it's the appeal to tradition (D1) applied to suffering imposed for entertainment. Many countries have already decided that being cultural doesn't put a practice beyond the reach of laws against cruelty: England and Wales banned hunting with dogs in 2004 and wild animals in circuses in 2020; Brazil's Supreme Court banned the farra do boi, a bull-chasing festival, and cockfighting, and in 2016 ruled the vaquejada, a rodeo in which riders pull bulls down by the tail, unconstitutional for cruelty. Tradition explains why a practice exists; it doesn't justify the suffering in it.
Short answer
Being a tradition doesn't put a practice beyond laws against cruelty. England and Wales banned hunting with dogs in 2004 and wild animals in circuses in 2020. Brazil's Supreme Court banned the farra do boi and cockfighting, and in 2016 ruled the vaquejada unconstitutional for cruelty; a constitutional amendment then tried to protect it. Festivals can keep their music, food and gathering, without the animals' suffering.
For children
At some festivals, people pull bulls down by the tail, fight bulls in an arena, or ride animals that buck out of fear and pain. This is called tradition. But hurting animals for fun doesn't become right just because it has gone on for a long time. Festivals can carry on with music, food and dancing, without hurting anyone.
"If other traditions involving animals have been banned for cruelty, why should this one be different?"
Como pode aparecer
"Rodeo is cultural heritage."
"They want to end the tradition."
"The bull doesn't even feel it."
"City people want to wipe out rural culture."
"The constitution protects cultural expressions."
"It's cultural; criticizing it is ethnocentric." (which is D2)
The strongest version
"Rodeo is cultural heritage. They want to end the tradition. The bull doesn't even feel it."
Strongest version (steelman):
- P1Rodeos, bullfights and other festivals with animals are part of many communities' identity.
- P2These practices are recognized as cultural heritage.
- P3Banning them would destroy part of the culture and harm those who make a living from them.
- CSo these practices should be kept.
P1 and P2 are true. P3 has a point about economic impact. The problem lies in the conclusion: cultural value doesn't authorize the suffering imposed on the animals.
The argument is valid. Its soundness fails because cultural value doesn't answer the question of cruelty.
Full answer
- a
Reconstruction and diagnosis
The argument uses cultural value to close the discussion about cruelty:
Practice What happens to the animal Legal situation Hunting with dogs (England and Wales) Foxes and other mammals chased and killed by dogs Banned by the Hunting Act 2004 Wild animals in circuses (England) Confinement, transport and training for performances Banned since 2020 Bullfighting (Spain) The bull is wounded and usually killed in the arena Banned in Catalonia in 2010; the ban was overturned by Spain's Constitutional Court in 2016 Farra do boi and cockfighting (Brazil) Bulls chased and beaten; birds fighting to injury or death Banned Vaquejada (Brazil) The bull is pulled down by the tail Ruled unconstitutional in 2016; later protected by Constitutional Amendment 96 - b
Where the argument breaks
1. It's the appeal to tradition.
The age of a practice says nothing about whether it's just (D1).
2. The law has already recognized the cruelty.
Parliaments and courts in several countries have banned traditional practices with animals because of the suffering involved. Where they were later protected, as with the vaquejada in Brazil or bullfighting in Spain, the reason given was culture, not the absence of suffering; Brazil's amendment even made the practice conditional on animal welfare.
3. "The bull doesn't even feel it" is false.
Cattle are sentient, and being pulled down by the tail can cause fractures, dislocations and serious injuries. In bullfighting, wounding the bull is part of the spectacle.
4. Cultures change.
Many traditional festivals keep their value without using animals, and many places have already replaced cruel practices.
5. The suffering is imposed for entertainment.
Unlike food, here there isn't even a claim of necessity.
- c
Data and sources
Source What it says Note United Kingdom, Hunting Act 2004 Bans hunting wild mammals with dogs in England and Wales A traditional practice banned for cruelty United Kingdom, Wild Animals in Circuses Act 2019 Bans the use of wild animals in traveling circuses in England In force since January 2020 Dizer o Direito, *vaquejada* (ADI 4983) (in Portuguese) Brazil's Supreme Court ruled the vaquejada law of Ceará unconstitutional for cruelty Also used in D1 and D2 Dizer o Direito, Constitutional Amendment 96/2017 (in Portuguese) The amendment deems sporting practices with animals registered as cultural heritage not cruel, provided they are regulated to ensure welfare Congress's response to the Court's ruling - d
The strongest counter-reply: communities live off these festivals
The most serious version points out that many communities depend economically on these festivals, and that banning them without alternatives would harm real people.
- e
Why the counter-reply doesn't reach the conclusion
Economic impact calls for a transition, not preservation.
Festivals can transform and keep their audience.
Economics doesn't justify cruelty.
The same argument would defend dogfighting.
There are examples of change.
Festivals that replaced cruel practices and kept drawing crowds.
- f
Back to the moral question
Here there isn't even a claim of necessity: the suffering is imposed for entertainment. The moral question becomes even clearer: does the pleasure of a spectacle justify hurting and frightening animals?
Reasoning errors
Logical
Is the form valid?
Appeal to tradition
Epistemological
Does the evidence support it?
Denying the suffering
Moral
Is the criterion coherent?
Entertainment as justification
Biases
Extrapolations
The principle being tested is: "if a practice is cultural, the animals' suffering in it is acceptable".
If it applied to…Hunting with dogsTap to see
It should have continued
Banned in England and Wales
If it applied to…Dogfighting and cockfightingTap to see
They should continue
Banned in many countries
If it applied to…Bear-baitingTap to see
It should have continued
Banned in Britain since 1835
Contradictions
Such as dogfighting or cockfighting.
The criterion is species.
Which admits there's a risk of suffering.
What the argument gets right
What is true
Traditional festivals have real cultural and social value, and many communities identify deeply with them. Changes imposed without dialogue can breed resentment and harm people who make a living from these festivals.
But
But the value of a festival lies in the gathering, the music, the food and the history, not in the animals' suffering. Traditions can change and still be traditions.
Connections
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Usually comes after