Next time you hear an argument against veganism, remember:
Every objection has an answer.
The argument guide for animal advocates systematically catalogs every idea used to exploit, harm or kill animals or to avoid helping them, with a thorough explanation of the objections and biases of people who oppose veganism and antispeciesism.
Most often heard
Someone said:
"Plants feel too."
No nervous system and no evidence of experience; and if they did feel, animal farming kills more plants
All arguments
A notebook with 12 dividers. Tap a phrase to see the main flaw without leaving the page.
ASentience and moral status Do animals count morally?
A1Animals aren't rational.
Main flaw: Rationality isn't what makes suffering matter, and the criterion would exclude humans who lack it
- "They don't think"
- "Animals act on instinct"
- "Only humans are self-aware"
A2Humans are superior, so we can use the inferior.
Main flaw: Superior abilities give no right to dominate
- "We're the dominant species"
- "Man is the king of creation"
- "If they were superior, they'd eat us"
A3Animals don't have language.
Main flaw: An irrelevant criterion for pain; it excludes babies and non-verbal people
- "They can't talk"
- "If they suffered, they'd complain"
- "They can't say what they feel"
A4Animals don't have souls.
Main flaw: An unfalsifiable premise used as a public criterion
- "Animals have no spirit"
- "Only man was made in the image of God"
- "When they die, that's it"
A5Animals aren't conscious and don't feel pain like we do.
Main flaw: Contradicts the neuroscientific evidence (Cambridge Declaration, 2012; New York Declaration, 2024)
- "It's just a reflex"
- "Animal pain is different"
- "They're biological machines"
A6Fish and invertebrates don't feel pain.
Main flaw: Growing evidence of sentience in fish, cephalopods and decapods
- "Fish don't feel anything"
- "Fish have a three-second memory"
- "Shrimp don't even have a brain"
A7No duties, no rights.
Main flaw: Confuses moral agents with moral patients; it would exclude children
- "Animals don't pay taxes"
- "Would a lion respect your rights?"
- "Rights are for those in the social contract"
A8Animals aren't persons.
Main flaw: A persuasive definition: pick the concept that excludes them, then conclude they are excluded
- "Animals are things, not people"
- "They're objects, not subjects"
- "A person is someone who is self-aware"
A9Rights are a human invention, only for humans.
Main flaw: Genetic fallacy: where a norm came from doesn't set how far it reaches
- "Human rights are for humans"
- "Animals don't have a social security number"
- "Nature doesn't know about rights"
A10They're just animals.
Main flaw: Explicit speciesism: species membership as a moral criterion, like race in racism
- "It's just a chicken"
- "Come on, it's an animal"
- "Humans are humans, animals are animals"
A11It's normal for humans to be rational.
Main flaw: Treats individuals by what others have, not by what they have
- "People with disabilities are still human"
- "What counts is human nature, not the individual case"
A12Human babies have the potential to be rational.
Main flaw: Potential doesn't confer the rights of the actual, and it doesn't cover humans without potential
- "The baby will grow up and reason"
- "A cow will never be more than a cow"
A13It's natural to put our own first.
Main flaw: Partiality lets us prefer our own; it does not let us exploit others
- "My family first, then everyone else"
- "Would you save your child or a pig?"
- "Species is family"
A14Plants feel too.
Main flaw: No nervous system and no evidence of experience; and if they did feel, animal farming kills more plants
- "Doesn't lettuce suffer?"
- "I read that plants communicate"
- "Carrot murderer"
A15Where do you draw the line? Insects? Bacteria?
Main flaw: Continuum fallacy: a fuzzy boundary doesn't erase clear cases
- "What about the bacteria you kill washing your hands?"
- "Do ants count too?"
- "If everything matters, nothing matters"
A16Killing without pain isn't harm.
Main flaw: Death takes away good future experiences; the same holds for humans with no sense of time
- "If it didn't suffer, what's the problem?"
- "They don't know they're going to die"
- "They have no sense of the future"
A17Animals are property.
Main flaw: Describes a legal status; doesn't justify it (as with slavery)
- "The cow is mine, I'll do what I want"
- "I bought it, it's mine"
- "It's a product like any other"
A18What matters is the species, not the individual.
Main flaw: Species don't feel; individuals do
- "Chickens aren't endangered"
- "As long as the species exists, it's fine"
- "We protect ecosystems, not every animal"
A19Vegans anthropomorphize animals.
Main flaw: Denying similar mental states is also an error (anthropodenial), and the evidence contradicts it
- "You've watched too much Disney"
- "You're projecting feelings"
- "That's sentimentality"
A20Humans have intrinsic value; animals have instrumental value.
Main flaw: Circular: it assumes the conclusion
- "Only humans have dignity"
- "Animals are means, not ends"
- "An animal is worth what it gives us"
A21I respect animals, but humans come first
Main flaw: A special status no one explains and that wouldn't pass the veil of ignorance: the weight should depend on the size of the harm, not on species
- "Humans have dignity, animals don't"
- "Human life is worth more"
- "Animals matter, but less"
A22Humans suffer more than animals
Main flaw: Suffering more in some cases doesn't license ignoring those who suffer less; and less cognition often means more suffering and more vulnerability
- "Humans suffer more because they understand what is happening"
- "Human suffering is deeper"
A23Morality exists to protect us from each other
Main flaw: It would also exclude babies and vulnerable people; and explaining where a practice came from does not justify it
- "Ethics was invented for self-protection"
- "Animals can't threaten us, so they're not part of the deal"
A24Species is biology, race is a social construct
Main flaw: A biological criterion can be as unjust as a social one: what makes discrimination unjust is giving someone's interests biased weight
- "Speciesism isn't like racism"
- "Race doesn't exist, species does"
BHarm, death and welfare Does killing without suffering harm the individual?
B1There is humane slaughter.
Main flaw: A contradiction in terms: there is no compassionate way to kill someone who does not want to die
- "Slaughter is painless nowadays"
- "They are stunned first"
- "There is ethical meat"
B2Free-range animals are happy.
Main flaw: They're still killed young; labels have little to do with practice, and changing the scale doesn't change the act
- "Free-range hens live happy lives"
- "Grass-fed cattle have a good life"
- "I only buy free-range eggs"
- "I buy from small farmers"
- "I buy from the local butcher"
- "My uncle raises them on his farm"
- "Family-farm meat is different"
B4The problem is the industry, not consumers.
Main flaw: The industry exists to meet demand: system and consumer sustain each other
- "I'm against factory farming, not meat"
- "Change the system, not my plate"
- "It's the companies' and the system's fault"
- "Change the big corporations, not my dinner"
- "Consumers have no power"
B5They had a good life and a quick death.
Main flaw: A good life doesn't license taking it; the idea is absurd applied to dogs or humans
- "Better than dying in the wild"
- "They lived well and died without noticing"
B6Without farming, these animals wouldn't even exist.
Main flaw: Bringing someone into existence gives no right to kill them
- "If no one ate them, there'd be no cows"
- "We're giving them life"
- "Vegans want chickens to go extinct"
B7Milk and eggs don't kill anyone.
Main flaw: Male chicks and calves are discarded, and cows and hens are slaughtered when production drops
- "I'm vegetarian, that's enough"
- "The cow doesn't die to give milk"
- "An egg isn't a chicken"
B8The law guarantees animal welfare.
Main flaw: Laws allow confinement, mutilations without anesthesia and the killing of newborns
- "There are inspections"
- "We have welfare standards"
- "If it were cruel, it'd be banned"
B9Those videos are exceptions or staged.
Main flaw: Much of what they show is standard, legal industry practice
- "That's from another country"
- "They filmed the worst case"
- "It's activist propaganda"
B10Stressed animals make bad meat, so farmers take good care of them.
Main flaw: The incentive is small and partial; it doesn't cover suffering that doesn't affect profit
- "No one would hurt their own profits"
- "Stressed meat is tough"
CNature, biology and evolution Is what is natural justified?
C1It's natural to eat meat.
Main flaw: Appeal to nature: natural doesn't mean right
- "It's human nature"
- "We've always been hunters"
- "It's biological"
C2Lions eat other animals.
Main flaw: Lions aren't moral agents and have no alternative
- "That's how nature works"
- "Will you ask the lion to go vegan?"
- "Cats eat mice"
C3We have canine teeth; we are omnivores.
Main flaw: Being able to eat it isn't needing to; anatomy creates no duty
- "Look at my teeth"
- "Our gut is an omnivore gut"
- "If we were meant to be herbivores, we'd have four stomachs"
C4We're at the top of the food chain.
Main flaw: Ecologically false (the average human trophic level is about 2.2) and morally irrelevant
- "We're at the top for a reason"
- "We're predators"
- "It's the law of the food chain"
C5Eating meat made us evolve.
Main flaw: An adaptive past doesn't dictate present morality
- "Without meat we'd still be in the trees"
- "Our brains grew thanks to meat"
C6Might makes right.
Main flaw: Social Darwinism: it describes a process, not a norm
- "Survival of the fittest"
- "It's the law of the jungle"
- "The weak serve the strong"
C7It's the circle of life.
Main flaw: A euphemism: breeding, confining and slaughtering is an industry, not a natural cycle
- "It's the cycle of life"
- "Everything dies someday"
- "It's part of life"
C8If we don't eat them, animals will take over the planet.
Main flaw: Gets the cause backwards: there are so many because they're bred
- "Cows would take over"
- "There'd be chickens everywhere"
C9Farm animals exist for this.
Main flaw: An imposed purpose: the "function" is assigned by whoever profits
- "Cattle were born to become steak"
- "Broiler chickens were made for this"
- "It's their purpose"
C10Cows need to be milked.
Main flaw: Only because they were made pregnant and bred for overproduction
- "If you don't milk her, the cow suffers"
- "We're helping the cow"
C11We naturally crave meat.
Main flaw: A learned and reinforced preference; desire is no justification
- "It's the body asking for it"
- "The smell of a barbecue is irresistible for a reason"
DTradition, culture and religion Does custom justify it?
D1We've always done it.
Main flaw: Appeal to tradition: the same phrase defended slavery and the subjugation of women
- "My ancestors ate meat"
- "It's been this way for thousands of years"
- "It's not going to change now"
D2It's cultural; criticizing it is ethnocentric.
Main flaw: Selective cultural relativism: not applied to practices the person condemns
- "You can't judge other cultures"
- "It's part of our regional identity"
- "That's cultural imperialism"
D3Indigenous and traditional peoples eat animals.
Main flaw: Uses those with no alternative to justify those who have one; veganism already says "as far as is possible and practicable"
- "What about Indigenous peoples?"
- "Will you tell Indigenous peoples they're wrong?"
- "Veganism is colonialist"
- "What about the Inuit, who have no alternative?"
- "What about people living in the Arctic?"
- "Not everywhere has a supermarket"
D4God gave us dominion over animals.
Main flaw: Many traditions read dominion as stewardship; and it is a theological premise, not a public one
- "It's in Genesis"
- "God made animals for man"
- "Who are you to contradict God?"
D5Jesus ate fish.
Main flaw: Appeal to authority; a historical context of necessity doesn't carry over
- "Jesus multiplied the fish"
- "In the Bible they sacrificed lambs"
D6Everybody eats meat.
Main flaw: Appeal to popularity: popular isn't right
- "You're a minority"
- "If it were wrong, nobody would do it"
- "Almost everyone eats meat"
D7It's legal; the law allows it.
Main flaw: Legalistic fallacy: the law follows morality, with a delay
- "If it's sold in the supermarket, it's allowed"
- "It's not a crime"
D8Barbecues bring the family together.
Main flaw: The bond is the gathering, not the animal
- "Sunday isn't Sunday without a barbecue"
- "It's a family tradition"
- "Christmas isn't Christmas without turkey"
D9My grandparents ate meat and lived to 90.
Main flaw: Anecdotal evidence and survivorship bias
- "My grandmother ate lard and lived to 100"
- "Nobody had these diseases back then"
D10Great thinkers ate meat.
Main flaw: Appeal to authority; many also defended human hierarchies we now reject
- "Aristotle ate meat"
- "Einstein wasn't vegan"
ERelativism, freedom and evasions Is it just a matter of choice?
E1It's my personal choice; don't impose your morals.
Main flaw: Personal choice ends where there is a victim; every rule against harm "imposes"
- "Everyone eats what they want"
- "Respect my plate"
- "I don't criticize your lettuce"
E2Morality is relative.
Main flaw: Self-refuting and applied selectively; it confuses taste with a claim about harm to others
- "Morality is a social construct"
- "Right and wrong depend on who is looking"
- "Everyone has their own truth"
- "That's your opinion"
- "You think one thing, I think another"
E4The state can't ban what I eat.
Main flaw: Switches from "is it wrong?" to "should it be banned?"
- "Vegans want to ban meat"
- "Vegan dictatorship"
E5Everything in moderation.
Main flaw: False middle ground: moderation doesn't make an unjustifiable harm acceptable
- "Nothing to extremes"
- "Balance is the secret"
- "Extremes are bad"
E6Nobody's perfect; I do what I can.
Main flaw: True in general, but used to avoid doing what is easy
- "I do my part"
- "Everyone at their own pace"
- "At least I recycle"
E7I don't want to see those videos.
Main flaw: Willful ignorance: avoiding the information to avoid the obligation
- "Don't show me that at lunch"
- "I'd rather not know"
- "That's emotional terrorism"
E8I love animals, but...
Main flaw: A contradiction between stated values and practice (the meat paradox)
- "I have three dogs"
- "I'm an animal lover, but I won't give up meat"
E9Eating meat isn't an ideology; veganism is.
Main flaw: The dominant norm is invisible to those who follow it (carnism, Joy 2009)
- "Eating meat is normal, it's not a philosophy"
- "You're the ones politicizing food"
- "Carnism is a made-up word"
E10Veganism is opinion, not science.
Main flaw: No moral position is "just science", including eating meat
- "That's ideology, not fact"
- "Science doesn't say eating meat is wrong"
E11Even philosophers don't agree.
Main flaw: Disagreement isn't a tie; there is strong convergence against factory farming
- "It's an open debate"
- "Some philosophers defend eating meat"
E12I know it's wrong, but I won't change.
Main flaw: Admitted weakness of will: concedes the moral point and refuses its consequence
- "You're right, but I like it too much"
- "Deep down I know"
- "I'll stop someday"
E13Defending animals is just utilitarianism
Main flaw: Equal consideration is a formal principle accepted by rival theories; knocking down utilitarianism doesn't rescue speciesism
- "That's Peter Singer, and utilitarianism is wrong"
- "It only makes sense in a utilitarian ethics"
FEdge cases and hypotheticals What about the desert island?
F1On a desert island, would you eat an animal?
Main flaw: Extreme necessity doesn't justify the practice in normal conditions
- "What if you were starving?"
- "In an apocalypse you'd eat meat"
F2If a dog and a child were drowning, which would you save?
Main flaw: A preference in a tragic conflict doesn't license exploiting those who aren't in one
- "Your mother or a cow?"
- "Would you save your dog or a stranger?"
F3So should we stop lions from hunting?
Main flaw: Wild animal suffering is a serious question, and it does not favor eating animals
- "Will you lock up every predator?"
- "So nature is immoral?"
F4What about the insects you kill while driving?
Main flaw: Accidental, unavoidable harm differs from intentional, avoidable harm
- "You step on ants"
- "Your car kills mosquitoes"
F6What about the eggs from my rescued hen?
Main flaw: A rare, debatable case with no link to the industry; it doesn't legitimize buying
- "She lays them anyway"
- "What's wrong with that egg?"
F7Oysters and mussels don't feel.
Main flaw: Partly plausible; it confirms that sentience is the criterion
- "Oysters have no central nervous system"
- "Bivalves are almost plants"
F8What about meat that gets thrown away?
Main flaw: Eating without creating demand is a different case; it still reinforces seeing animals as food
- "If it'll be thrown out, better to eat it"
- "Party leftovers don't count"
F9You also kill mosquitoes and rats at home.
Main flaw: Self-defense and real conflict differ from breeding animals to eat
- "You use insect repellent"
- "If there's a cockroach, you kill it"
GHealth and nutrition Do we need animal products?
G1We need animal protein.
Main flaw: Protein needs are met by legumes, grains and soy
- "Where do you get your protein?"
- "Without meat you'll be weak"
- "You need quality protein"
G2Plant protein is incomplete.
Main flaw: A 1970s myth; variety over the day provides all the essential amino acids
- "It lacks amino acids"
- "Plant protein has low biological value"
- "You have to combine everything in the same meal"
G3If you need B12 supplements, it isn't natural.
Main flaw: Farm animals also get supplemented B12; and natural is not the criterion (C1)
- "A diet that needs pills is wrong"
- "No natural diet needs supplements"
G4You'll lack iron, zinc and other micronutrients.
Main flaw: Plannable with a varied diet; iron deficiency is also common in meat eaters
- "Vegans are always anemic"
- "Iron from plants isn't absorbed"
G5Milk is necessary for your bones.
Main flaw: Calcium is found in plants and fortified foods
- "Milk makes bones strong"
- "You'll get osteoporosis"
- "Children need milk"
G6Only fish provides omega-3.
Main flaw: Fish get their DHA from algae, a direct source available to us
- "You have to eat fish twice a week"
- "Flaxseed doesn't give you DHA"
G7Soy causes female hormones and cancer.
Main flaw: Phytoestrogens aren't estrogen; meta-analyses don't support the myth
- "Soy feminizes men"
- "Soy causes breast cancer"
- "Soy is GMO poison"
G8Children and pregnant women can't be vegan.
Main flaw: Major nutrition bodies consider it appropriate at every life stage, with planning
- "That's child abuse"
- "The baby won't develop"
- "Pregnant women need meat"
G9Athletes need meat.
Main flaw: There are elite vegan athletes; adequate protein intake is what matters
- "Nobody builds muscle without meat"
- "There's no such thing as a vegan bodybuilder"
G10I know someone who got sick being vegan.
Main flaw: Anecdotal evidence; it confuses a badly planned diet with a vegan diet
- "My cousin got sick"
- "An influencer quit veganism for health reasons"
- "I saw an ex-vegan's story"
G11My body can't adapt.
Main flaw: The blood type diet has been refuted; individual complaints are rarely investigated
- "I tried and felt sick"
- "My blood type needs meat"
- "Everybody is different"
G12A carnivore, paleo or keto diet is healthiest.
Main flaw: Weak, short-term evidence that contradicts the large cohort studies
- "The carnivore diet cured my illness"
- "Our ancestors ate only meat"
- "Carbs are the villain"
G13The WHO exaggerates; red meat isn't bad for you.
Main flaw: Cherry picking against the consensus (IARC: processed meat Group 1, red meat Group 2A)
- "Nutrition studies are all observational"
- "Saturated fat has been cleared"
- "Meat doesn't cause cancer"
G14Ultra-processed vegan foods are worse than meat.
Main flaw: False dichotomy: veganism doesn't require ultra-processed foods
- "Vegan meat is full of chemicals"
- "I prefer real food"
G15Plants have antinutrients.
Main flaw: Doses and preparation make them irrelevant; populations eating plant-based diets live longer
- "Beans have lectins"
- "Spinach has oxalates"
- "Plants have poisons to defend themselves"
G16Vegans are weak, pale and depressed.
Main flaw: A stereotype; the existing correlations have uncertain or reverse causation
- "Every vegan looks sick"
- "They're missing meat in their heads"
G17My doctor told me to eat meat.
Main flaw: An appeal to individual authority against institutional positions
- "My dietitian said I need it"
- "No doctor recommends veganism"
HEnvironment, ecology and agriculture Is veganism worse for the planet?
H1Vegans' soy is destroying the Amazon.
Main flaw: Most soy becomes animal feed; pasture is the main driver of deforestation
- "Tofu causes deforestation"
- "You eat the soy that destroys forests"
H2Harvests kill animals; vegans kill too.
Main flaw: Animal farming uses far more cropland (for feed) and land
- "How many mice died for your salad?"
- "Vegans have blood on their hands too"
H3Regenerative grazing sequesters carbon.
Main flaw: Limited, temporary sequestration that cannot scale; it needs more land per calorie
- "Well-managed cattle restore the soil"
- "Holistic grazing reverses desertification"
- "Carbon-neutral beef"
H4Cattle graze where crops can't grow.
Main flaw: Partly true, but that land could be rewilded and produces few calories
- "Cattle turn grass into food"
- "That land is only good for cattle"
H5Cow methane is biogenic; it doesn't count.
Main flaw: Methane has a strong short-term effect; growing herds increase warming
- "Methane disappears in 12 years"
- "Cows have always burped"
H6Avocados and almonds use a lot of water.
Main flaw: A selective comparison; per nutrient, animal products lead in water and land use
- "Almond milk dries up rivers"
- "Quinoa took food from people in the Andes"
H7Imported vegan food pollutes in transport.
Main flaw: Transport is a small share of emissions; what you eat matters more than how far it traveled
- "Your tofu comes from far away"
- "The neighbor's beef pollutes less than imported nuts"
H8Local, organic meat is sustainable.
Main flaw: Grass-fed beef usually needs more land and emits as much or more per kilo
- "I buy organic"
- "Grass-fed beef is sustainable"
- "Eat local"
H9Agriculture can't work without manure.
Main flaw: Green manures and compost exist; the manure comes from crops grown for feed
- "Without animals there is no fertilizer"
- "Organic farming depends on cattle"
H10Sustainable fishing and aquaculture solve it.
Main flaw: Bycatch, overfishing and feed made from wild fish; the suffering continues
- "I buy certified fish"
- "Farmed fish don't affect the ocean"
H11Hunting controls populations.
Main flaw: It often causes the imbalance it claims to fix; non-lethal methods exist
- "Wild boars are a pest"
- "Without hunting, deer starve"
H12Livestock pollutes little; the problem is fossil fuels.
Main flaw: False dichotomy; food systems account for about a third of emissions
- "The problem is cars"
- "Focus on the oil companies"
H13If meat is sustainable, there's no problem.
Main flaw: Reduces a moral question about victims to an environmental one
- "My only issue is deforestation"
- "With carbon-neutral meat there is no reason to be vegan"
H14Eating insects is the sustainable protein of the future
Main flaw: Trades environmental impact for trillions of probable victims; plant proteins are just as efficient, with no one to suffer
- "Cricket flour is eco-friendly"
- "Insects don't feel, so farm as many as you like"
IOther uses: testing, clothing, entertainment And beyond the plate?
I1Animal testing has saved millions of lives.
Main flaw: A benefit doesn't justify using those who can't consent; translational failure rates are high
- "Would you rather test on children?"
- "Without rats there'd be no vaccines"
- "Medicine needs it"
I2If you take medicine, you can't oppose testing.
Main flaw: Tu quoque; testing is required by law, not chosen by the patient
- "You take vaccines, so you're not vegan"
- "Hypocrite who uses medicine"
I3Leather is just a byproduct of meat.
Main flaw: Profitable byproducts subsidize slaughter
- "The leather would be thrown away"
- "Better to use the whole animal"
- "Synthetic leather is plastic"
I4Sheep need to be shorn.
Main flaw: Only because they were bred for excessive wool; mulesing, and slaughter when production ends
- "Without shearing, sheep die of heat"
- "Wool is natural and sustainable"
I5Bees make extra honey.
Main flaw: Honey is the bees' food reserve; honeybees compete with native pollinators
- "Honey is natural"
- "Without beekeepers, bees disappear"
- "Bees don't even feel anything"
I6Zoos conserve species and educate.
Main flaw: Few of the species kept are endangered or reintroduced
- "Without zoos, children wouldn't know animals"
- "They live longer in zoos"
I7Aquariums and dolphin parks are harmless.
Main flaw: Severe captivity for wide-ranging animals with complex social lives
- "Dolphins enjoy doing shows"
- "Aquariums teach about the ocean"
I8Rodeos, bullfights and circuses are culture.
Main flaw: Appeal to tradition (D1) applied to suffering imposed for entertainment
- "Rodeo is cultural heritage"
- "They want to end the tradition"
- "The bull doesn't even feel it"
I9Horses like working and being ridden.
Main flaw: A convenient projection by those who benefit
- "Horses were born to be ridden"
- "The carriage driver depends on it"
I10In sport fishing the fish is released.
Main flaw: Injury, stress and post-release mortality; pain as a pastime
- "I catch and release"
- "It's just a little hook"
- "Fishing is my therapy"
I11Having a pet is exploitation too, and your cat eats meat.
Main flaw: Adopting and caring differs from breeding to use; cats need nutrients, not meat; and none of this licenses eating animals
- "Then you shouldn't have a dog"
- "Neutering is exploitation too"
I12Trophy hunting funds conservation.
Main flaw: Little money reaches conservation; it uses individuals as tools
- "Hunters are the biggest conservationists"
- "The license pays for park rangers"
JPracticality, economy and society Is it feasible and fair to ask this?
J1Veganism is expensive.
Main flaw: Beans, rice, grains and vegetables are among the cheapest foods
- "Vegan food is for the rich"
- "Vegan cheese costs a fortune"
J2Poor people have no access.
Main flaw: A real barrier for some, which doesn't apply to the person objecting; and many cultures have old vegetarian traditions
- "Tell that to people who are going hungry"
- "There's no vegan store in poor neighborhoods"
- "Veganism is a privilege of white, wealthy people"
- "It's a middle-class thing"
- "It's for people in city apartments"
J3Farmers and slaughterhouse workers would lose their jobs.
Main flaw: An argument used against every moral reform; transitions can be planned
- "What about the farmers?"
- "You want to put millions out of work"
J4Agriculture is the backbone of the economy.
Main flaw: Economic importance is not a moral justification; it ignores subsidies and external costs
- "Farming feeds the nation"
- "The country lives off agribusiness"
- "Veganism would wreck the economy"
J5What would we do with the animals if everyone went vegan?
Main flaw: A gradual change reduces births; the problem is created by breeding itself
- "Release the cows into the streets?"
- "They'd have to kill them all at once"
J6There are more important human problems.
Main flaw: Priority fallacy: eating plants doesn't take time from any other cause
- "With so many children going hungry..."
- "Fight for people first"
J7Veganism is a political ideology or a globalist agenda.
Main flaw: Guilt by association and conspiracy theory; it doesn't assess the argument
- "It's a leftist thing"
- "They want us to eat bugs"
- "They want to control what you eat"
J9It's hard; I don't have time.
Main flaw: Initial difficulty isn't impossibility; inconvenience doesn't justify harm
- "I work all day"
- "I can't cook"
J10Vegan food is bland.
Main flaw: A generalization from unfamiliarity; most spices and many dishes are already plant-based
- "Just salad?"
- "Rabbit food"
- "Am I supposed to eat grass?"
J11Meat tastes good.
Main flaw: Taste as a justification for killing: no other context accepts this
- "Bacon is too good"
- "I can't live without cheese"
- "Steak is sacred"
J12I eat little meat; that's enough.
Main flaw: Reducing is better than nothing, but it doesn't justify what is left
- "I only eat meat on weekends"
- "I do Meatless Monday"
- "I'm a flexitarian"
J13Eating out, traveling and parties become impossible.
Main flaw: Exaggerates the social cost; options keep growing and adapting is quick
- "What about dinner at my in-laws?"
- "I'll be left out"
J14Fishers and ranchers would lose their identity.
Main flaw: Identity doesn't justify harm to others; it calls for a just transition
- "My family has always lived from fishing"
- "I'm a rancher's son"
J15A vegan world is utopian.
Main flaw: Confuses full, immediate feasibility with a present individual duty
- "That will never happen"
- "It's a hippie dream"
KEffectiveness and individual responsibility Does my choice change anything?
K1One person doesn't make a difference.
Main flaw: Expected-value reasoning: the elasticity is below 1 but positive, and buying less leads to producing less
- "It's a drop in the ocean"
- "You alone won't change anything"
- "Supply and demand don't work like that with meat"
- "The slaughterhouse kills the same number anyway"
- "The price drops and someone else buys it"
K2The animal is already dead.
Main flaw: The purchase pays for restocking, that is, the next death
- "It's already in the store; it'll go to waste"
- "I wasn't the one who killed it"
K4There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
Main flaw: A partial truth used to erase huge differences in harm
- "Everything is exploitation"
- "Your sneakers were made with slave labor"
K5I'll wait for cultivated meat.
Main flaw: Postpones the duty until it costs nothing
- "In ten years technology will fix it"
- "When it's cheap, I'll switch"
K6Radical veganism pushes people away.
Main flaw: May be a fair point about strategy, but it is neither a moral rebuttal nor a personal excuse
- "You scare people off"
- "Why don't you just promote reduction?"
- "Toxic veganism"
K7I don't kill; I just eat.
Main flaw: Outsourced morality: paying for the act is taking part in it
- "I just buy it"
- "The butcher is the one who kills"
K9Vegans should fight for laws, not diets.
Main flaw: False dichotomy; personal consistency and political action complement each other
- "Diet is individualism"
- "Do politics instead of pestering people"
LAttacks on veganism and vegans Can the people saying this be trusted?
L1Vegans are annoying and think they are better.
Main flaw: Ad hominem: the messenger's behavior doesn't change whether the message is valid
- "How do you know someone's vegan? They'll tell you"
- "You think you are better than us"
L2Veganism is a cult, a religion.
Main flaw: A label used to avoid evaluating; veganism rests on public arguments
- "You preach like fanatics"
- "That's indoctrination"
L3Hitler was a vegetarian.
Main flaw: Reductio ad Hitlerum and guilt by association; historically doubtful
- "Hitler loved animals"
- "The Nazis passed animal protection laws"
L4You use a phone, so you're a hypocrite.
Main flaw: Tu quoque: someone's inconsistency doesn't make what they say false
- "You drive a car"
- "What about tires with animal fat?"
- "Your phone has minerals mined by children"
L5Veganism isn't 100% cruelty-free.
Main flaw: Nirvana fallacy: reducing harm doesn't require eliminating it entirely
- "No vegan is 100% vegan"
- "So veganism doesn't exist"
L6Vegans care more about animals than people.
Main flaw: False dilemma and generalization; empathy is not a zero-sum resource
- "You cry for the cow but not for the homeless"
- "Vegans hate people"
L7Comparing animal farming to slavery or the Holocaust is offensive.
Main flaw: Distinguish structural analogy from moral equivalence; handle with care and sources
- "You trivialize the Holocaust"
- "That comparison is racist"
L8If vegans eat fake meat, they want meat.
Main flaw: The problem was never the taste; it was the victim
- "Why call it a burger?"
- "A vegan sausage is a contradiction"
L9I'll eat double to make up for you.
Main flaw: An emotional reaction (reactance), not an argument
- "I'll eat some bacon in your honor"
- "For every vegan, one more steak"
L10Most vegans give up.
Main flaw: Difficulty sticking to it says nothing about whether it is right
- "Almost everyone goes back to eating meat"
- "Not even you can stick with it"
L11Vegan activists are radicals and extremists.
Main flaw: Judging a cause by the methods of a minority
- "Eco-terrorists"
- "Vegans break into farms"
L12Meat is for real men.
Main flaw: A gender stereotype; masculinity is neither a moral nor a nutritional criterion
- "Real men eat meat"
- "Salad is for women"
L13Veganism is just a fad diet
Main flaw: Confuses an ethical position about not harming animals with a menu chosen for health or looks
- "Veganism is a trend"
- "It's just another diet; it'll pass"
What if the person starts from a political theory?
Liberals, Marxists, anarchists, utilitarians, feminists: each theory has a principle, and none offers, on its own terms, a reason to leave animals out.
"Freedom is a right of rational individuals; animals aren't subjects of liberal rights."
Libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism"What's mine is mine: animals are property, and the freedom to use property is sacred."
Marxism, socialism and communism"Exploitation is a relation between human classes. Animals aren't workers, and the struggle is a different one."
Anarchism"Anarchism fights domination between people; animals are not part of that."
Utilitarianism"Human pleasures are worth more: better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied."
Contractualism and Rawlsian justice"Justice holds among those who have a sense of justice and can make agreements."
Deontology and Kantianism"Only rational beings are ends in themselves; toward animals we have, at most, indirect duties."
Communitarianism"Duties arise from the community and its traditions, and animals are not members of it."
Egalitarianism and prioritarianism"Equality is among human citizens; animals belong to another category."
Ethics of care"Care applies to close relationships, not to unknown animals."
Virtue ethics"Virtue is about human character; treating animals well matters only because it makes us better."
Feminism"Feminism is about women; talking about cows and hens is changing the subject, or even offensive."
Anti-racism, anti-ableism and the fight against other discrimination"Comparing speciesism to racism or ableism is offensive; they are different things."
The progressive left and multiculturalism"The animal cause is a white middle-class concern that ends up attacking the cultural practices of minorities."
Pacifism and nonviolence"Nonviolence is a commitment between people, not to animals."
Effective altruism"Resources for doing good are limited, and should go to humans first."
Two questions, twelve families
Similar arguments go wrong in similar ways. Every objection tries to answer one of these two questions.
Direct argumentsDo animals count?
Indirect argumentsIs it necessary, feasible, effective?
Even when part of them is true, they justify exceptions at most. Many activists avoid using them to defend animals: other social movements do not defend humans with health or environmental arguments. Learn why
Almost every conversation ends in one of these three roots:
See the map of connections βStop saying this, or say it better
The standard applies to both sides. These arguments circulate among vegans and do not survive scrutiny as they are said. Tap one to see how to say it better. Correcting is part of the process, but without losing focus: why.
"Going vegan will make you healthier."Borrowed reason
Say: A well-planned vegan diet is viable. That shows the duty not to harm animals can be met, but the duty comes from them, not from your health.
Why this argument is weak β"Veganism would end world hunger."Borrowed reason
Say: Harming sentient beings without necessity is unjust, with or without any effect on hunger.
Why this argument is weak β"Go vegan for the planet."Borrowed reason
Say: The environment matters as a means: preserving or changing an ecosystem makes moral sense insofar as it improves the lives of real sentient beings.
Why this argument is weak β"Meat eaters are psychopaths."Exaggeration or attack
Say: Point out the inconsistency: the person already cares about some animals, and nothing relevant separates those animals from the ones they eat.
Why this argument is weak β"There's no such thing as an ex-vegan."Exaggeration or attack
Say: Ex-vegans exist, but that says nothing in favor of the position they went back to. Someone ceasing to be an abolitionist doesn't make slavery acceptable.
Why this argument is weak β"Using force to protect animals is always wrong."Exaggeration or attack
Say: Separate the cases, because rescue, property damage and violence against people are different things, and ask what each one actually produces, with evidence instead of conviction.
Why this argument is weak β"Being vegan is very expensive."Exaggeration or attack
Say: Processed substitutes can be expensive, but the basis of a vegan diet doesn't have to be. Start with beans, rice, grains and vegetables.
Why this argument is weak β"Anemia mostly affects meat eaters."Exaggeration or attack
Say: Eating meat doesn't prevent anemia, which is common on every diet. What prevents it is planned eating, with iron sources, vitamin C at meals and tests when needed.
Why this argument is weak β"Every nutrition body in the world approves vegan diets for everyone."Exaggeration or attack
Say: Say who says what: bodies such as the US Academy and the British Dietetic Association accept well-planned vegan diets at every stage of life, with B12 and planning; others urge more caution for pregnancy and children. None says you need to eat animals.
Why this argument is weak β"Doctors don't know anything about nutrition."Exaggeration or attack
Say: Ask the reason for the advice: which nutrient is missing and whether it can come from another source. If it is a general opinion, compare it with the positions of nutrition bodies and look for a dietitian who knows plant-based diets.
Why this argument is weak β"In India almost everyone is vegan."Exaggeration or attack
Say: In India, about four in ten adults say they are vegetarian, and eight in ten restrict meat in some way. Refusing meat is old and diverse, and it does not belong to one social group.
Why this argument is weak β"Each vegan saves 200 animals a year."Exaggeration or attack
Say: Each purchase has a real average effect on production, less than one animal per animal not bought, but more than zero. Over a lifetime of thousands of meals, that adds up to many animals.
Why this argument is weak β"Hitler wasn't even really a vegetarian."Exaggeration or attack
Say: Even if he was vegetarian, that would say nothing about veganism, just as his not smoking doesn't make cigarettes good. What matters are the arguments about the animals.
Why this argument is weak β"All animals are slaughtered fully conscious, without stunning."Exaggeration or attack
Say: Say what the law allows and what fails: birds shackled conscious before stunning, a gas that pigs avoid, religious slaughter without stunning, fish almost always killed by suffocation. And even with the best stunning, the animal is still killed.
Why this argument is weak β"Jesus was a vegetarian."Exaggeration or attack
Say: What Jesus ate in first-century Galilee doesn't decide what we should do today. Christians follow his values, not his habits, and compassion for the vulnerable is at their center.
Why this argument is weak β"Great geniuses like Einstein and Da Vinci were vegan."Exaggeration or attack
Say: What matters are the reasons, not who holds them. If you cite someone, cite the argument: Plutarch wrote against eating meat, and many contemporary philosophers defend vegetarianism or veganism as an ethical position.
Why this argument is weak β"God didn't make animals for humans."Wrong criterion
Say: Use a reason anyone can evaluate, whatever their faith: the animal can be harmed, and that harm needs a justification.
Why this argument is weak β"We should love animals."Wrong criterion
Say: You don't have to like cows to stop paying for their deaths. The question is justice, not affection. When someone does love an animal, it's worth pointing out the inconsistency, but rest the conclusion on what holds for everyone: what relevant difference is there between a dog and a pig, if both can suffer?
Why this argument is weak β"Humans come first."Wrong criterion
Say: Similar harms deserve similar weight. Causes can have different priorities because of the number of victims, neglect and tractability, not because of species.
Why this argument is weak β"I'm vegan out of compassion for all living beings."Wrong criterion
Say: Say "sentient beings": those who can feel and be harmed by what we do.
Why this argument is weak β"Pigs are smarter than a three-year-old child."Wrong criterion
Say: Pigs have real cognitive and social abilities, but what matters is that they feel pain, fear and pleasure. That holds for the pig, the chicken and the fish, however intelligent they are.
Why this argument is weak β"Comparing it to slavery pushes people away."Objection in disguise
Say: Say what your real objection is. If it's moral, defend it as moral. If it's strategic, show the evidence.
Why this argument is weak β"Don't show the footage; it's too shocking."Objection in disguise
Say: Ask which approach reduces the most suffering, not which is most comfortable to defend.
Why this argument is weak β"This partial law is unfair to the other animals."Objection in disguise
Say: Judge each law by what it causes over time. The abolition-versus-reform debate is real, but it is empirical and needs evidence case by case.
Why this argument is weak β"Not your mom, not your milk."A fact with no moral weight
Say: Talk about who pays the price: the cow has to be made pregnant to produce, the male calves are discarded and the cows are slaughtered when production drops.
Why this argument is weak β"Eggs are chicken periods."A fact with no moral weight
Say: Talk about what happens to the birds: the male chicks are discarded and the hens are slaughtered when production drops.
Why this argument is weak β"No adult animal drinks milk."A fact with no moral weight
Say: Talk about production: repeated pregnancies, separation of calves and slaughter of cows when production drops. That is what makes milk a moral problem.
Why this argument is weak β"Meat eaters eat more soy than vegans."A fact with no moral weight
Say: For the fear of hormones, cite the studies in humans. For deforestation, yes, point out that most soy feeds animals.
Why this argument is weak β"Cats can't be vegan."Weak or false science
Say: The evidence suggests cats can live well on complete vegan foods, carefully formulated and with veterinary follow-up. Where that still falls short, the answer is to develop better foods, not to give up on the animals that become cat food.
Why this argument is weak β"Humans are biologically herbivores."Weak or false science
Say: Even if we were great at digesting meat, that wouldn't tell us whether it's right. We can live well without it, and that's the information that matters.
Why this argument is weak β"Vegans are sexier and better in bed."Weak or false science
Say: Talk about who is harmed. Being vegan isn't a beauty program.
Why this argument is weak β"Broccoli and spinach have more protein than meat."Weak or false science
Say: Good plant sources exist: beans, lentils, chickpeas and soy. Always compare grams of protein per 100 g of food.
Why this argument is weak β"Vegans don't need to supplement B12."Weak or false science
Say: Anyone who doesn't eat animal products needs a reliable source of B12, such as a supplement or fortified food, ideally with professional guidance. Needing a supplement doesn't make the diet invalid.
Why this argument is weak β"Gorillas, bulls and horses get strong eating only plants."Weak or false science
Say: Use evidence about humans: well-planned plant-based diets provide the protein we need, and there are top athletes who don't eat animals. And remember that the main question is moral, not nutritional.
Why this argument is weak β"All the B12 in meat comes from supplements."Weak or false science
Say: B12 is made by bacteria, not by animals. Taking a supplement just gets the same vitamin without the middleman.
Why this argument is weak β"Livestock pollutes more than all cars, planes and ships combined."Weak or false science
Say: Use comparable figures: livestock accounts for between 12% and 14.5% of human emissions, according to the FAO, and animal-based foods for about 57% of food production emissions. That is already a lot, without a mistaken comparison.
Why this argument is weak β"Livestock causes 51% of the world's greenhouse gas emissions."Weak or false science
Say: Say that livestock accounts for between 12% and 14.5% of human emissions and about 40% of human-caused methane, together with the rest of agriculture. These are accepted figures, and they are enough.
Why this argument is weak β"Animal testing is useless: 90% of drugs fail."Weak or false science
Say: Animal tests have serious limits and are no longer required for every drug in the US. But the main question is a different one: a benefit doesn't justify using those who cannot consent, and we don't accept that with humans.
Why this argument is weak β"Unseasoned meat tastes of nothing; all the flavor comes from seasoning."Weak or false science
Say: Much of the flavor we associate with meat comes from preparation and seasoning, and that can be applied to plants. And even if meat tasted better, the pleasure of a meal wouldn't justify an animal's life.
Why this argument is weak β"It's proven that vegans are more empathetic."Weak or false science
Say: Say that caring for animals doesn't reduce care for people: empathy isn't zero-sum, and many animal advocates also work for human causes.
Why this argument is weak β"Koko the gorilla held conversations in sign language."Weak or false science
Say: Animal communication is rich, and pain can be measured without words, through facial expressions and behavior. You don't have to speak to suffer, just like a baby or a person who has lost speech.
Why this argument is weak β"It's proven that meat played no role in human evolution."Weak or false science
Say: The exact role of meat in evolution is debated, and cooking food, including plants, is another strong explanation. But the main point is different: what helped our ancestors survive doesn't tell us what to do today, with alternatives.
Why this argument is weak β"Science proves veganism is right."Weak or false science
Say: Science shows that animals feel and that we can live well without exploiting them. Ethics, with its own methods, shows that causing unnecessary suffering is wrong, a principle almost everyone already accepts. It's the combination of the two that supports veganism.
Why this argument is weak β"Oysters and mussels feel pain like any other animal."Weak or false science
Say: Maybe oysters and mussels don't feel, and the doubt justifies caution. But anyone who accepts this argument accepts that sentience is the criterion, and that criterion condemns eating the animals that do feel.
Why this argument is weak β"Cultivated meat isn't vegan, because it comes from animals."Purity and invented rules
Say: There's a real risk that the technology becomes a badge of "conscience" without replacing animal farming. That justifies vigilance, not outright rejection.
Why this argument is weak β"Food that may contain traces of milk isn't vegan."Purity and invented rules
Say: Check whether there is an animal ingredient and whether the company carries out or sponsors testing or other exploitation.
Why this argument is weak β"A good vegan only eats natural, organic, healthy food."Purity and invented rules
Say: Taking care of your health is great, but it's a different conversation. To be vegan, it's enough not to exploit animals as far as possible.
Why this argument is weak β"On a desert island, I'd starve before eating an animal."Purity and invented rules
Say: Maybe I would eat one, the way a starving person might steal food. That changes nothing in everyday life: none of us is on an island, and the question is what we do when we don't need to.
Why this argument is weak β"I'm vegan, but I taste the food when I visit my family."A concession that empties the point
Say: Decline kindly, without a sermon: "Thanks, I don't eat that, but I love being here." Bringing a dish to share usually makes the conversation easier.
Why this argument is weak β"I'm vegan, but I don't think everyone should be."A concession that empties the point
Say: Anyone who can avoid harming animals has a reason to. I know change takes time, and I'm here to talk, not to judge you.
Why this argument is weak β"Being vegan requires being anti-capitalist."The cause as a tool
Say: Defend your political position as a political position, with its own arguments, without presenting it as a condition for defending animals.
Why this argument is weak β"More expensive meat is bad for ordinary people."The cause as a tool
Say: Recognize when two legitimate goals conflict and discuss how to resolve it, instead of pretending the conflict does not exist.
Why this argument is weak β"Veganism is only about animals; nothing else matters."The cause as a tool
Say: Veganism has a focus, and prioritizing it is legitimate. That doesn't oblige anyone to embrace every cause (see V51), but it doesn't free anyone from respecting people either.
Why this argument is weak βBeyond veganism
The sentience criterion doesn't end at the plate. Click a circle or choose a topic.
Antispeciesism and sentientism
Veganism is one consequence of a broader criterion: what matters morally is the capacity to be harmed or benefited.
OverviewThe state of the art in animal ethics
Since 1975, animal ethics has been tested on ever harder cases, by authors from schools that disagree with each other, and has reached the same rejection of speciesism.
Ethical questionWild animal suffering
Hunger, disease and predation were not caused by us. But if sentience is what matters, this suffering cannot be dismissed just because it is natural.
PossibilitySentience in AI and robots
No current system is recognized as sentient. But the possibility is not absurd, and the criterion does not depend on what a being is made of.
DebateThe definition of veganism, debated
What defines veganism: refusing the exploitation of animals, or refusing everything of animal origin? The question has come back strongly with cultivated meat and precision fermentation.
PossibilitySentience in extraterrestrial beings
There is no evidence of life beyond Earth, let alone sentient life. The question tests whether our criterion is really a criterion, or just a preference for our own species.
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