For the Animals
An Argument Guide
PT

Home / F. Edge cases and hypotheticals / Part DIR

F6

"What about the eggs from my rescued hen?"

The answer in one sentence

it's a rare and debatable case, and for that reason it legitimizes nothing outside it. A rescued hen living in a backyard has no connection to the egg industry, which culls male chicks and confines laying hens. But even in this case there are good reasons not to eat the eggs: modern hens have been bred to lay close to 300 eggs a year, which depletes their bodies, and giving the eggs back to them helps replace nutrients.

Short answer

It's a rare case, and it has nothing to do with store-bought eggs, which come from an industry that culls male chicks and confines hens. Even in a backyard, there are good reasons not to eat them: modern hens lay close to 300 eggs a year, far more than their wild ancestors, and that depletes the calcium in their bodies. Many sanctuaries give the eggs back to the hens to help them recover.

For children

Today's hens lay many more eggs than wild hens used to, because people bred them for that. Laying so many eggs tires out their bodies. That's why some people who care for rescued hens give the eggs back to them to eat, so they can get their strength back.

Ask a question back

"Do the eggs you buy at the store come from rescued hens?"

Como pode aparecer

"What about the eggs from my rescued hen?"
Everyday conversation
"She lays them anyway."
Everyday conversation
"What's wrong with that egg?"
Everyday conversation
"Backyard hens are happy and the egg is a bonus."
Social media
"The case of the exploitation-free egg shows the problem is the industry, not consumption."
Academic version
"Milk and eggs don't kill anyone." (which is B7)
Disguised version

The strongest version

How it is said

"She lays them anyway. What's wrong with that egg?"

Strongest version (steelman):

  1. P1My hen was rescued and lives well, without being exploited.
  2. P2She lays eggs naturally, without anyone forcing her.
  3. P3Eating an egg that would go to waste harms no one.
  4. CSo eating these eggs isn't wrong, and veganism is too rigid in forbidding them.

P1 and P2 may be true. P3 is debatable. The main problem lies in the conclusion: even if the case were acceptable, it says nothing about eggs bought at the store.

The argument is valid for the specific case, if P3 is true. It fails when used to justify eating eggs in general.

Full answer

  1. a

    Reconstruction and diagnosis

    The argument uses an exceptional case to defend the ordinary one:

    CaseConnection to the industryHarm involved
    Rescued hen in a backyardNo direct connectionDebatable: wear on the hen's body
    Supermarket eggsTotalChick culling, confinement, slaughter of laying hens
  2. b

    Where the argument breaks

    1. It's a rare case.

    Almost all eggs consumed come from the industry. Using the rescued hen to defend eggs in general is a hasty generalization from an exception.

    2. The industry is what's in question.

    Store-bought eggs involve culling billions of male chicks a year and slaughtering laying hens when production drops (B7).

    3. Egg production depletes hens.

    Modern laying hens lay close to 300 eggs a year, while their wild ancestors laid a few dozen. This demands a lot of calcium and energy, and is linked to health problems.

    4. Giving the eggs back helps.

    Many sanctuaries offer the eggs back to the hens, who eat them and recover nutrients. The "wasted" egg is useful to the one who produced it.

    5. Eating the egg reinforces the idea that the hen is for this.

    Even without direct harm, treating the hen as a source of food keeps the category of "production animal" alive (C9).

  3. c

    Data and sources

    SourceWhat it saysNote
    The Humane League, how many eggs a hen laysCommercial hens lay close to 300 eggs a yearAn animal advocacy organization; estimates for the wild ancestor vary
    Faunalytics, chick cullingBillions of male chicks are culled every year in the egg industryAlso used in B7
  4. d

    The strongest counter-reply: what if the hen doesn't eat the eggs?

    The most serious version says that if the hen doesn't eat the eggs and they'd go in the trash, eating them harms no one, and refusing would be pure formalism.

  5. e

    Why the counter-reply doesn't reach the conclusion

    Even granting the case, nothing changes for the industry.

    The case still has no connection to the eggs people buy.

    Veganism isn't about purity.

    The case can be discussed calmly; it isn't the center of the debate.

    The consistency is with the hen.

    Caring for her includes her health, and the egg can be part of that.

Reasoning errors

Logical

Is the form valid?

Fallacy of accident (converse)
A rare case becomes a defense of consumption in general

Epistemological

Does the evidence support it?

Not knowing laying hens' biology
Ignores the cost of egg production for the hen

Moral

Is the criterion coherent?

Production category
Still sees the hen as a source of food

Biases

Functional categorization

The hen is still seen as an "egg hen"

Bratanova, Loughnan and Bastian, 2011

Motivated reasoning

One favorable case serves to excuse change

General literature on motivated cognition

Extrapolations

The principle being tested is: "if a rare case is acceptable, the practice in general is acceptable".

If it applied to…Meat from an animal killed by accidentTap to see

All meat would be acceptable

No one concludes this

If it applied to…Leather from an animal who died of old ageTap to see

All leather would be acceptable

The industry doesn't work that way

If it applied to…Any exceptionTap to see

It would justify the rule

The classic error of generalization

Contradictions

Buys eggs at the store.

The case of the rescued hen doesn't describe their own consumption.

Cares for the hen, but ignores her health.

The egg could help her.

Wouldn't drink the milk of a rescued dog.

Which shows the category is cultural.

What the argument gets right

What is true

The rescued hen's case is genuinely different from the industry. People who rescue hens do something good, and there's no cruelty comparable to that of factory farms in a well-kept backyard. It's also true that veganism shouldn't get lost in formalism.

But

But the case says nothing about store-bought eggs. And on closer inspection, even the backyard egg has a cost to the hen, and it can be given back to her.

Connections

Usually comes before

B7 Milk and eggs don't kill anyone.Appeals to the case of the rescued hen's egg
F8 What about meat that gets thrown away?Looks for another case with no apparent harm
F6this argument

Usually comes after

B7 Milk and eggs don't kill anyone.Generalizes to all eggs and milk
F7 Oysters and mussels don't feel.Looks for another edge case

References