For the Animals
An Argument Guide
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E7

"I don't want to see those videos."

The answer in one sentence

refusing information so as not to feel the obligation is willful ignorance. If someone can't bear to see what happens to the animals they eat, the problem isn't the video but what it shows. Research shows that some consumers deliberately avoid information about meat production precisely so they won't have to change.

Short answer

No one is obliged to watch violent videos, and timing matters. But if what they show is unbearable to watch, it may be unbearable to pay for. The problem isn't the video; it's what it shows. Research in the Netherlands found that about a quarter of consumers admit avoiding information about meat production. It's a way of not feeling the obligation to change.

For children

Sometimes we don't want to look at something because it's sad. That's normal. But if we don't want to look because we know something wrong is happening, closing our eyes doesn't make it stop. It's like covering your ears when someone is asking for help.

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"If you can't watch how it's done, do you feel fine paying for it to be done?"

Como pode aparecer

"Don't show me that at lunch."
Everyday conversation
"I'd rather not know."
Everyday conversation
"That's emotional terrorism."
Everyday conversation
"Vegans love posting slaughter videos to shock people."
Social media
"Do you want to ruin my meal?"
Rhetorical question
"Those videos are exceptions or staged." (which is B9)
Disguised version

The strongest version

How it is said

"Don't show me that at lunch. I'd rather not know. That's emotional terrorism."

Strongest version (steelman):

  1. P1Violent images cause suffering to those who see them.
  2. P2No one is obliged to expose themselves to images that make them suffer.
  3. P3Using shocking images is emotional manipulation, not argument.
  4. CSo refusing to watch the videos is legitimate and says nothing about the moral question.

P1 and P2 are largely true: no one should be forced to watch violent scenes, and timing matters. P3 is partly true, but ignores that the images show facts. The problem lies in the conclusion: refusing to look doesn't change what happens, and those who pay for what happens have special reasons to know.

The argument is valid as a defense of the right not to be exposed to images. It fails when used to avoid knowing what one is funding.

Full answer

  1. a

    Reconstruction and diagnosis

    The argument can mean two things:

    VersionWhat it meansLegitimate?
    "Not now"I don't want to see that during lunchYes, timing matters
    "Never"I'd rather not know how my food is producedNo: it's avoiding information relevant to one's own choice
  2. b

    Where the argument breaks

    1. It's willful ignorance.

    Avoiding information so as not to feel obliged to act is a well-known strategy. It doesn't change the facts, only how they're perceived.

    2. The discomfort is a signal.

    If seeing how it's done causes suffering, that indicates something morally relevant in what's seen. We don't feel this watching a bean harvest.

    3. The images show facts.

    Calling them "emotional terrorism" suggests manipulation. But the emotion comes from what happens, and many scenes show legal, common practices (B8, B9).

    4. Research documents the strategy.

    A 2016 Dutch study identified a group of "strategically ignorant" consumers: about 27% admitted ignoring information about meat production. Psychology also shows that being reminded of the link between meat and suffering leads people to attribute less mind to animals.

    5. Those who pay have special reasons to know.

    No one has to watch everything that happens in the world. But when one directly funds something, knowing how it's done is part of a responsible choice.

  3. c

    Data and sources

    SourceWhat it saysNote
    Onwezen and van der Weele, 2016, summarized by FaunalyticsAbout 27% of Dutch consumers admit ignoring information about meat productionA group described as "strategically ignorant"
    Bastian et al., 2012Being reminded of the link between meat and suffering leads people to deny animals mindsShows the strategy of reducing discomfort
  4. d

    The strongest counter-reply: seeing isn't necessary for knowing

    The most serious version says the person already knows, broadly, that animals die to become food, and doesn't need to see the images to have that information. Refusing the images isn't refusing knowledge.

  5. e

    Why the counter-reply doesn't reach the conclusion

    Knowing broadly isn't knowing what it's like.

    Many people are surprised by common practices, like culling chicks or gestation stalls.

    If they already know, the question remains.

    The moral question doesn't depend on seeing; it depends on what one does with what one knows.

    The refusal usually comes with avoiding any conversation.

    The test is whether the person will at least read or talk about the subject.

Reasoning errors

Logical

Is the form valid?

Attacking the messenger
Criticizes whoever shows it instead of what's shown

Epistemological

Does the evidence support it?

Willful ignorance
Avoids the information to avoid the obligation

Moral

Is the criterion coherent?

Evading responsibility
Prefers not to know what one funds

Biases

Willful ignorance

Avoiding information that would create an obligation

Onwezen and van der Weele, 2016

Mind denial

Perceiving less animal mind eases the discomfort

Bastian et al., 2012

Meat paradox

Avoiding the image keeps affection and the plate apart

Loughnan, Haslam and Bastian, 2010

Extrapolations

The principle being tested is: "if I'd rather not know, I bear no responsibility".

If it applied to…Clothes made with slave laborTap to see

Those who don't want to know would bear no responsibility

No one accepts this

If it applied to…A neighbor mistreating their dogTap to see

It would be enough not to look

No one accepts this

If it applied to…Companies with illegal practicesTap to see

Managers could avoid reports to escape responsibility

The law calls this willful blindness

Contradictions

Watches other difficult content.

Documentaries, war news, violent films.

Wouldn't feel the same discomfort with harvest videos.

Which shows the problem is the content.

Wants to know how other products are made.

Especially when slave labor is suspected.

What the argument gets right

What is true

No one should be forced to watch violent images, and there are inappropriate times and ways to show them. Activists who use images carelessly can push people away, and the viewer's discomfort is real.

But

But discomfort is a signal, not an argument. If looking at something is unbearable, the question left is whether it makes sense to keep paying for it.