For the Animals
An Argument Guide
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"If you take medicine, you can't oppose testing."

The answer in one sentence

it's a tu quoque. Patients don't choose how a medicine was developed: animal tests are or were required by law, and there's no way to buy a medicine "without testing". Refusing treatment wouldn't save a single animal; it would only harm the sick person. Veganism asks us to avoid exploitation "as far as is possible and practicable", and campaigning to change the rules is consistent with using what exists today.

Short answer

Patients don't choose how a medicine was developed: the tests were required by law, and there's no option of buying the same medicine without them. Refusing treatment wouldn't save any animal; it would only harm the sick person. Veganism asks us to avoid exploitation "as far as is possible and practicable". Using medicine while campaigning for animal-free methods is perfectly consistent, and the law is already changing.

For children

When we get sick, we need medicine. But we weren't the ones who decided to test that medicine on animals: the old rules did. A person can take the medicine and, at the same time, help change the rules so the next medicines are tested without animals.

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"Would refusing a medicine that already exists save any animal?"

Como pode aparecer

"You take vaccines, so you're not vegan."
Everyday conversation
"Hypocrite who uses medicine."
Everyday conversation
"If you were consistent, you'd refuse treatment."
Everyday conversation
"A vegan who takes antibiotics can't talk about testing."
Social media
"Those who enjoy the benefits of animal research endorse the practice."
Technical version
"You use a phone, so you're a hypocrite." (which is L4)
Disguised version

The strongest version

How it is said

"You take vaccines, so you're not vegan. Hypocrite who uses medicine."

Strongest version (steelman):

  1. P1Almost all medicines have been tested on animals.
  2. P2Those who use these medicines benefit from the tests.
  3. P3Those who benefit from a practice can't condemn it without inconsistency.
  4. CSo those who take medicine can't oppose animal testing.

P1 and P2 are true. The problem lies in P3: benefiting from something one didn't choose doesn't prevent criticizing it, and critics can use what exists while working to change the rules.

The argument is valid. Its soundness fails at P3.

Full answer

  1. a

    Reconstruction and diagnosis

    The argument confuses choosing a practice with benefiting from a system:

    SituationIs there a choice?Does refusing help animals?
    Buying meatYes, there are alternativesYes: it reduces demand
    Taking a necessary medicineThere's no untested versionNo: the test was already done and was required
    Buying a tested cosmeticYes, there are cruelty-free brandsYes
  2. b

    Where the argument breaks

    1. It's a tu quoque.

    Accusing someone of inconsistency doesn't answer whether the tests are right.

    2. The patient didn't choose.

    The tests were done because the law required them. The sick person has no option of buying the same medicine developed without animals.

    3. Refusing helps no one.

    Unlike meat, refusing a medicine doesn't reduce testing: it has already been done. It would only harm the person who needs it.

    4. Veganism is "as far as is possible".

    The classic definition anticipates exactly cases like this (D3).

    5. It's consistent to work to change the rules.

    Many animal advocates support alternative methods. The law is changing: the European Union has banned animal testing for cosmetics, and the sale of cosmetics tested on animals, since 2013; Brazil restricted animal testing for cosmetics in 2023; and the United States removed the requirement for animal tests on new drugs in 2022 (I1).

  3. c

    Data and sources

    SourceWhat it saysNote
    EU Cosmetics Regulation (EC) No 1223/2009Bans animal testing of cosmetics and the marketing of cosmetics tested on animals in the EUThe marketing ban took full effect in 2013
    UK Animals (Scientific Procedures) Act 1986Regulates the scientific use of animals in the UKShows that testing is governed by law
    The Vegan Society, definition of veganismVeganism seeks to exclude exploitation "as far as is possible and practicable"The exception is already in the definition
  4. d

    The strongest counter-reply: those who use it, legitimize it

    The most serious version says that by using tested medicines, a person helps maintain the system, because the medicine market funds research.

  5. e

    Why the counter-reply doesn't reach the conclusion

    There's no alternative available.

    You can't choose an untested medicine when none exists.

    Pressure for change is what works.

    Changes to the rules, not refusing treatment, reduce testing.

    Meat is different.

    For food, there are immediate alternatives.

  6. f

    Back to the moral question

    The argument doesn't answer whether testing is right, or whether it's right to eat animals. It only points to a supposed inconsistency, which dissolves once what is a choice is separated from what isn't. For food, where the choice exists, the moral question remains.

Reasoning errors

Logical

Is the form valid?

Tu quoque
Accuses of inconsistency instead of answering
False analogy
Compares a choice with something that isn't a choice

Moral

Is the criterion coherent?

Nirvana fallacy
Demands total purity before allowing any criticism

Biases

Hypocrisy hunting

Finding inconsistency in others eases one's own

Linked to L4

Motivated reasoning

The accusation serves to end the conversation

General literature on motivated cognition

Extrapolations

The principle being tested is: "those who benefit from a system can't criticize it".

If it applied to…Those who criticize slave labor and use manufactured goodsTap to see

They couldn't criticize it

No one accepts this

If it applied to…Those who criticize pollution and use electricityTap to see

They couldn't criticize it

No one accepts this

If it applied to…Abolitionists who wore cottonTap to see

They couldn't criticize slavery

Absurd

Contradictions

Doesn't require critics of any system to leave it.

People who criticize traffic still use roads.

Accepts campaigning to change laws one obeys.

On other subjects.

Uses the argument only against vegans.

Not against those who criticize other abuses.

What the argument gets right

What is true

It's true that almost everyone, vegans included, benefits from medicines tested on animals, and that it's impossible to escape entirely from a system that involves exploitation. Recognizing this is honest.

But

But recognizing the benefit doesn't prevent working for change. Using today's medicine while working so that tomorrow's doesn't depend on animals is consistent. And none of this applies to the plate, where the choice exists.

Connections

Usually comes before

I1 Animal testing has saved millions of lives.Accuses those who take medicine
I2this argument

Usually comes after

L4 You use a phone, so you're a hypocrite.Generalizes the accusation of hypocrisy

Go deeper in Questão de Ética

Chapters from the open-access collection A Journey Through Animal Ethics that discuss this argument in more detail:

References