For the Animals
An Argument Guide
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"Stressed animals make bad meat, so farmers take good care of them."

The answer in one sentence

farmers have an incentive to avoid the suffering that reduces profit, not all suffering. Broiler chickens are the clearest example: they were bred to grow about four times faster than in 1957, which is profitable and, according to the European scientific authority, causes mobility problems and injuries. Economic interest and welfare sometimes coincide, and they diverge precisely where suffering is cheaper than the fix.

Short answer

Profit protects the animal only where suffering costs money. Where suffering is cheaper than the fix, the incentive points the other way. Broiler chickens were bred to grow about four times faster than in the 1950s, because that's profitable, and the European scientific authority reports that this growth causes injuries and mobility problems. The animal only has to be well enough to reach slaughter.

For children

Imagine a factory that only cares about how much money it makes. It looks after the machines that make money, but doesn't worry about anything that doesn't change the profit. Farms are similar: the owner takes care of whatever makes the animal produce more. But if the animal suffers in a way that doesn't change the money, no one has a reason to change anything.

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"If profit guaranteed welfare, why were chickens bred to grow so fast that they can barely walk?"

Como pode aparecer

"No one would hurt their own profits."
Everyday conversation
"Stressed meat is tough."
Everyday conversation
"Well-treated animals produce more."
Everyday conversation
"Farmers care more about animal welfare than anyone."
Social media
"Animal welfare improves production indicators."
Technical version
"The law guarantees animal welfare." (which is B8)
Disguised version

The strongest version

How it is said

"No one hurts their own profits. Meat from stressed animals is tough, so farmers have every reason to take good care of them."

Strongest version (steelman):

  1. P1Stress before slaughter lowers meat quality.
  2. P2Sick or injured animals yield less.
  3. P3The farmer wants to maximize profit.
  4. CSo the farmer has an incentive to ensure the animals' welfare.

P1 and P2 are true: stress affects meat quality, and there are economic losses linked to disease and injury. The problem is the move from "there is an incentive to avoid part of the suffering" to "there is an incentive to avoid suffering".

The argument is valid if the conclusion is limited. It fails when it concludes that profit guarantees welfare, because the incentive is partial.

Full answer

  1. a

    Reconstruction and diagnosis

    Economic incentive and welfare only partly coincide:

    SituationDoes the incentive protect the animal?
    Stress right before slaughter, which spoils the meatPartly, yes
    Diseases that kill many animalsPartly, yes
    Fast growth that causes pain but increases outputNo: the incentive works against the animal
    High stocking density that causes stress but lowers the cost per animalNo, as long as total profit rises
    Fear, boredom and frustration that don't affect yieldNo: the farmer has no reason to act
  2. b

    Where the argument breaks

    1. The incentive is partial.

    The farmer is interested in the yield of the flock or herd, not in the welfare of each animal. An animal that suffers but reaches slaughter at the expected weight is no loss.

    2. Genetic selection shows the conflict.

    Between 1957 and 2005, genetic selection made broiler chickens about four times heavier at 42 days, on half the feed. The study's own authors pointed to possible musculoskeletal and immune problems. In 2023, the European scientific authority identified bone lesions and mobility problems among the main welfare consequences, and recommended limiting growth rates.

    3. Density is a calculation, not care.

    Putting more animals in the same space can raise mortality and lower individual performance, and still be more profitable overall. The economic optimum isn't the animal's optimum.

    4. Suffering with no effect on profit stays invisible.

    Fear, frustration of natural behaviors and chronic pain that doesn't reduce weight don't show up in any production indicator.

    5. Death isn't a cost; it's the product.

    Economic incentive will never protect the animal from the most important thing that happens to it, because death is the very goal of production.

  3. c

    Data and sources

    SourceWhat it saysNote
    Zuidhof et al., 2014, *Poultry Science*Compared broilers from 1957, 1978 and 2005 strains: the 2005 bird grows about four times more on half the feedThe authors warn of possible musculoskeletal and immune problems
    EFSA, *Welfare of broilers on farm* (2023)Identifies bone lesions and mobility problems among the main welfare consequences; recommends limiting growth and lowering densityOfficial EU scientific opinion; checked in the summary
  4. d

    The strongest counter-reply: the market can reward welfare

    The most serious version grants that the current incentive is partial, but says consumers willing to pay more for welfare can change the calculation, and that certifications already do this.

  5. e

    Why the counter-reply doesn't reach the conclusion

    It concedes the point.

    If a consumer paying more is needed for there to be welfare, profit alone doesn't guarantee it.

    The premium reaches few animals.

    Most production remains intensive (B2).

    No certification includes not killing.

    The market can improve the life, but it doesn't change the end.

Reasoning errors

Logical

Is the form valid?

Overgeneralization
From "there's an incentive to avoid part of the suffering" it concludes "there's an incentive to avoid suffering"

Epistemological

Does the evidence support it?

Not knowing about genetic selection
Ignores that profit produced animals who suffer because of their own bodies

Moral

Is the criterion coherent?

Welfare reduced to yield
Considers the animal well treated if it yields well

Biases

System justification

The market seems to guarantee the right outcome

Linked to B8 and J4

Optimism bias

"The farmer who sells to me is careful"

Linked to B2

Willful ignorance

No one looks into what the production indicator hides

Linked to E7

Extrapolations

The principle being tested is: "the economic interest of the user guarantees the welfare of the used".

If it applied to…WorkersTap to see

Labor laws would be unnecessary

History shows the opposite

If it applied to…Draft horsesTap to see

Owners would never work them to exhaustion

It happened many times

If it applied to…Broiler chickensTap to see

They wouldn't have been bred to grow until they suffer

They were

Contradictions

Doesn't trust profit to protect workers.

Labor laws exist because economic interest isn't enough.

Accepts that animal farming has welfare rules.

If profit were enough, they wouldn't be needed.

Knows the goal of raising the animal is slaughter.

The same incentive that "cares" for the animal is what takes it to its death.

What the argument gets right

What is true

There's a truth here: at many points, welfare and productivity go together, and many farmers know this and look after their animals partly out of self-interest. Welfare measures sometimes improve meat quality and reduce losses, and that alignment can be used to promote improvements.

But

But the alignment is partial. Where suffering is profitable or costs less than the fix, the incentive works against the animal. And at the most important point, death, no alignment is possible: it is the product itself.

Connections

Usually comes before

B8 The law guarantees animal welfare.From the legal incentive to the economic one
B10this argument

Usually comes after

B8 The law guarantees animal welfare.Says the law guarantees the rest
B2 Free-range animals are happy.Moves on to free-range animals

References