For the Animals
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"If we don't eat them, animals will take over the planet."

The answer in one sentence

the argument gets the cause backwards. Farmed animals exist in enormous numbers because they are bred: inseminated, hatched and fed for that purpose. If demand fell, fewer animals would be bred, and there would be no explosion of cows and chickens. Today, farmed animals already make up about 60% of the mass of all mammals on the planet precisely because we eat them.

Short answer

It's the opposite: farmed animals are numerous because they're bred to be eaten. They're born through artificial insemination and in hatcheries, in the numbers the market asks for. If demand fell, fewer animals would be bred, and there'd be no planet full of cows. Today farmed animals make up about 60% of the mass of all the world's mammals, precisely because of consumption.

For children

Farms make lots of animals be born on purpose, because they want to sell the meat. If people bought less meat, farms would have fewer animals born. It's like a bakery: if no one buys bread, it bakes less bread, and it doesn't end up full of leftover bread forever.

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"If people ate less chicken, would hatcheries keep incubating the same billions of eggs?"

Como pode aparecer

"Cows would take over."
Everyday conversation
"There'd be chickens everywhere."
Everyday conversation
"Someone has to eat these animals."
Everyday conversation
"Vegans want a planet overrun by cows."
Social media
"What would you do with billions of chickens?" (which leads to J5)
Rhetorical question
"Hunting controls populations." (which is H11)
Disguised version

The strongest version

How it is said

"If no one ate meat, cows would take over. There'd be chickens everywhere."

Strongest version (steelman):

  1. P1Farmed animals reproduce.
  2. P2Without slaughter, they would keep reproducing out of control.
  3. CSo eating animals is necessary to control their populations.

P1 is true in a general sense. P2 is false: the reproduction of farmed animals is controlled by the farmers themselves.

The argument is valid. Its soundness fails at P2, which reverses the relationship between breeding and population.

Full answer

  1. a

    Reconstruction and diagnosis

    The argument pictures farmed animals as a wild population that reproduces on its own. In reality:

    How the argument pictures itHow it works
    The animals are born and need to be controlledThe animals are born because their births were scheduled
    Consumption reduces the populationConsumption is the cause of the population
    Without consumption, there'd be overpopulationWithout consumption, there'd be far fewer animals
  2. b

    Where the argument breaks

    1. Reproduction is controlled.

    Chickens hatch in hatcheries; pigs and cows are artificially inseminated on a large scale. The population exists because it is produced.

    2. Demand creates the population.

    Farmed animals make up about 60% of the planet's mammal biomass, and farmed birds about 70% of bird biomass. That figure is the result of production for consumption.

    3. The transition would be gradual.

    No one stops eating meat all at once worldwide. With demand falling gradually, farmers would simply breed fewer animals (J5).

    4. Many farmed animals wouldn't even survive on their own.

    Breeds selected to grow fast or produce a lot of milk depend on human management. Some species, like pigs, can form wild populations when they escape, as feral pigs have in the United States, but that is a local management problem created by farming itself, not a takeover of the planet (H11).

  3. c

    Data and sources

    SourceWhat it saysNote
    Bar-On, Phillips and Milo, 2018, *PNAS*Farmed animals make up about 60% of mammal biomass; farmed birds about 70% of bird biomassPercentages checked in summaries of the article
    Zuidhof et al., 2014Broiler chickens were bred to grow about four times fasterShows their dependence on human management
  4. d

    The strongest counter-reply: what about the animals that already exist?

    The most serious version admits the population is bred, but asks what would happen to the animals that already exist if consumption fell suddenly.

  5. e

    Why the counter-reply doesn't reach the conclusion

    The change wouldn't be sudden.

    Consumption changes gradually, and production adjusts.

    The existing animals could live out their lives.

    Either in sanctuaries, or with a gradual reduction in births (J5).

    The question doesn't justify continuing to breed.

    Even if dealing with existing animals were hard, that's no reason to bring billions more into the world to die.

Reasoning errors

Logical

Is the form valid?

Reversed causation
Treats a consequence of consumption as a reason to consume

Epistemological

Does the evidence support it?

Not knowing how production works
Ignores that reproduction is controlled
Unrealistic scenario
Imagines consumption ending abruptly

Biases

Motivated reasoning

An imaginary scenario serves to excuse change

General literature on motivated cognition

Status quo bias

The current number of animals seems natural

Samuelson and Zeckhauser, 1988

Extrapolations

The principle being tested is: "if we stop consuming something, it piles up out of control".

If it applied to…BreadTap to see

If no one bought it, bakeries would be full forever

Bakeries would bake less

If it applied to…CarsTap to see

If no one bought them, factories would keep producing

Production would fall

If it applied to…Purebred dogsTap to see

Without buyers, there'd be an explosion of puppies

Breeders would stop breeding

Contradictions

Knows production follows demand.

For any other product, they understand that fewer sales mean less production.

Doesn't fear overpopulation of other domesticated animals.

Species bred in smaller numbers don't "take over" anything.

What the argument gets right

What is true

The question of what would happen to farmed animals in a world with less consumption is legitimate and deserves careful answers, involving a gradual transition, sanctuaries and public policy.

But

But the fear of overpopulation reverses reality. Farmed animals aren't a pest to control; they are individuals brought into the world to be eaten. Eating less doesn't multiply them: it means fewer of them are born to die.