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"Animals aren't conscious and don't feel pain like we do."

The answer in one sentence

the claim that animals aren't conscious isn't a neutral position in the face of the evidence: it contradicts the current scientific consensus. And the milder version, "they don't feel like we do", changes the subject: difference isn't absence, and in some respects their experience may be worse, because they don't understand what's happening and can't be reassured.

Short answer

This isn't an open question. In 2012, a group of neuroscientists signed the Cambridge Declaration stating that lacking a neocortex doesn't stop an animal from having affective experiences, and in 2024 the New York Declaration, signed by hundreds of researchers, went in the same direction. Saying "they don't feel like us" doesn't help either: different isn't less. A pig in the slaughterhouse doesn't understand what's happening and can't be reassured, which may make the experience worse, not better.

For children

When you accidentally step on a dog's tail, it yelps, moves away and is then afraid to come close. That isn't just the body moving by itself: it felt it, remembered it and became afraid. Scientists have studied this a lot, and today most agree that animals feel pain, fear and joy. It may be a little different from how we feel, but it hurts all the same.

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"If they don't feel, why does the pharmaceutical industry test painkillers on them?"

Como pode aparecer

"It's just reflex, like when the doctor taps your knee."
Everyday conversation
"Animal pain is different; they forget."
Everyday conversation
"They have no idea what's happening, so they don't suffer."
Everyday conversation
"Chickens don't even have the brains for that."
Social media
"Fish don't have a neocortex, so they don't feel pain."
Social media
"Do you really think a cow suffers the way a person does?"
Rhetorical question
"Nociception isn't pain; without the right cortical structures, there's no conscious experience."
Academic version
"Descartes already said it: they're automata."
Historical version
"They feel, but not like us." (uses the difference to reduce the weight, without saying by how much)
Disguised version

The strongest version

How it is said

"Animals don't feel like we do; it's just reflex."

Strongest version (steelman). The serious version isn't Cartesian; it's neuroscientific. It was defended, for example, by Brian Key (2016) regarding fish:

  1. P1Conscious pain, unlike nociception, depends on specific brain structures, such as the neocortex and its connections.
  2. P2Many animals lack those structures.
  3. C1So these animals can react to harmful stimuli without any conscious experience of pain.
  4. P3There's only moral harm when there's conscious experience.
  5. C2So using them causes no moral harm.

The distinction between nociception (detecting a harmful stimulus, which can be automatic) and pain (the unpleasant experience) is legitimate and important. The argument errs in assuming the first happens without the second in every species without a neocortex.

There's also the mild version, more common in conversation: "they do feel, but not like us". This version doesn't deny sentience; it uses the difference to reduce the moral weight of suffering, without saying by how much or why.

The argument is valid. Its soundness fails at P1, which confuses a specific structure with the function it performs, and at P2, which ignores analogous structures in other animal groups.

Full answer

  1. a

    Reconstruction and diagnosis

    The argument has two very different versions, and they shouldn't be mixed up.

    VersionWhat it claimsHow it's assessed
    Strong (Cartesian or neuroanatomical)There's no conscious experience, only nociceptionIt's an empirical claim, and current evidence goes against it
    MildThey feel, but differently and less intenselyMay be partly true, but doesn't authorize the conclusion; difference isn't absence

    The strong version makes a known mistake in comparative neuroscience: confusing structure with function. Requiring a neocortex for experience is like requiring bat wings for an animal to fly. Birds and octopuses, for example, solve complex problems with brain architectures very different from ours.

  2. b

    Where the argument breaks

    1. The scientific consensus is the opposite.

    The Cambridge Declaration (2012) states that "the absence of a neocortex does not appear to preclude an organism from experiencing affective states" and that non-human animals, "including all mammals and birds, and many other creatures, including octopuses", possess the neurological substrates that generate consciousness. The New York Declaration (2024) reaffirms the point and extends it: there's strong support for mammals and birds, and a "realistic possibility" of conscious experience in all vertebrates and many invertebrates.

    2. Science doesn't rely on a single anatomical criterion.

    Pain assessment uses converging criteria: presence of nociceptors, opioid systems, behavior change after injury, learning to avoid what hurts, willingness to pay costs to avoid pain, the effect of painkillers on behavior (Sneddon et al., 2014). Fish, birds, mammals, octopuses and crabs pass several of these criteria.

    3. Tests of emotional state are already routine in research.

    The judgment bias test, created by Harding, Paul and Mendl (2004), showed that rats in worse conditions interpret ambiguous signals more "pessimistically", as humans do in negative moods. The technique was later applied to many species. This isn't activist intuition: it's methodology published in top journals.

    4. The law has already followed the evidence.

    A review of more than 300 studies, commissioned from Jonathan Birch's group (2021), concluded that cephalopods and decapods should be treated as sentient. The United Kingdom changed its law to recognize octopuses, lobsters and crabs as sentient beings.

    5. "Not like us" can mean worse.

    An animal that doesn't understand what's happening can't prepare, can't be reassured, doesn't know the pain will pass and can't ask for help. In humans, the inability to understand and anticipate usually increases suffering, not reduces it. So the cognitive difference doesn't justify discounting the weight of suffering; in many cases it justifies increasing it.

  3. c

    Data and sources

    FindingSourceReliability
    "The absence of a neocortex does not appear to preclude an organism from experiencing affective states"; mammals, birds and octopuses possess the neurological substrates of consciousnessCambridge Declaration on Consciousness, 7 Jul. 2012High as a synthesis of experts
    Strong support for conscious experience in mammals and birds; a realistic possibility in all vertebrates and in cephalopods, decapods and insectsNew York Declaration, 19 Apr. 2024High as a synthesis of experts
    A review of more than 300 studies concludes that cephalopods and decapods should be treated as sentient; the basis for the change in British lawBirch, Burn, Schnell, Browning and Crump, 2021 (LSE)High (a systematic review commissioned by government)
    Rats in worse conditions interpret ambiguous signals more pessimistically, like humans in a negative moodHarding, Paul and Mendl, 2004, *Nature*High; method replicated in many species
    Converging criteria for assessing animal painSneddon et al., 2014High (reference review)
    The position that fish don't feel painKey, 2016, *Animal Sentience*A minority view: the article drew more than 30 published commentaries, most disagreeing, several pointing out that lacking a neocortex doesn't imply absence of pain
  4. d

    The strongest counter-reply: the hard problem of consciousness

    The honest reply isn't "animals are machines", but: no one can explain why subjective experience exists, nor measure consciousness directly. Any behavior could, in principle, occur without anyone feeling. So attributing suffering to animals would be an inference by analogy, weaker the more distant the species. This is a legitimate philosophical concern, and the book doesn't pretend it doesn't exist.

  5. e

    Why the counter-reply doesn't reach the conclusion

    The same doubt applies to other humans.

    There's no direct measure of consciousness in anyone. If uncertainty were enough to ignore suffering, the same would hold for anyone who isn't me.

    Uncertainty isn't absence.

    "We aren't sure" doesn't imply "they don't feel". It implies we must decide under uncertainty, which is different.

    Under uncertainty, the cost of error decides.

    Treating as sentient an animal that may not feel costs a different meal. Treating as insensible an animal that feels costs real suffering, multiplied by tens of billions of individuals a year. The New York Declaration states the same principle: when there's a realistic possibility of conscious experience, it's irresponsible to ignore it.

    The analogy isn't weak for farmed vertebrates.

    Pigs, cows, chickens and fish have nociceptors, opioid systems, physiological stress responses and avoidance behavior. The evolutionary distance is large for an insect, not for a mammal raised for food.

    The skeptic already acts as if they knew.

    Those who doubt animal pain accept anesthesia for their own dog before surgery, and accept that painkillers are tested on animals before reaching pharmacies.

Reasoning errors

Logical

Is the form valid?

Confusing structure and function
Requires a neocortex for experience, ignoring different brain architectures
Non sequitur
From "feels differently" it concludes "feels less" or "doesn't matter"
False dichotomy
Either it feels exactly like a human or it doesn't feel

Epistemological

Does the evidence support it?

Contradicting the consensus
Presents as obvious a thesis most experts reject
Cherry picking
Cites only one side of the debate (for example Key, 2016) and omits the dozens of replies
Selective skepticism
Demands certainty about animal minds and waives it for human ones
Ignoring the asymmetry of risk
Treats erring by excess and erring by lack of caution as equivalent

Moral

Is the criterion coherent?

Discount without criterion
Says suffering "weighs less" without saying by how much or why
Inverting vulnerability
Uses the inability to understand one's own pain as a reason to disregard it, when it makes things worse

Biases

Motivated denial of mind

Knowing an animal will be eaten reduces the mind we attribute to it

Bastian et al., 2012; replicated by Jacobs et al., 2024

Categorization as food

Classifying an animal as food reduces the perception that it suffers

Bratanova, Loughnan and Bastian, 2011

Motivated skepticism

Much stronger evidence is demanded for the uncomfortable conclusion

Ditto and Lopez, 1992

Anthropodenial

Fear of seeming naive leads to denying obvious similarities, the mirror error of anthropomorphizing

Frans de Waal

Distance and invisibility

The suffering happens far away, with no sound or image for the consumer

The empirical basis of argument E7 ("I don't want to see")

Status quo bias

Accepting sentience would require changing habits, so the doubt is kept

General literature on motivated cognition

Extrapolations

The principle being tested is: "whoever lacks the brain structures we have, or doesn't feel like us, can be disregarded".

If it applied to…NewbornsTap to see

Their pain could be ignored. A baby's cortex is still immature, and they neither report nor understand their own pain; by the criterion, there'd be no experience to protect

This belief underpinned surgery on babies with minimal anesthesia until the 1980s (Anand and Hickey, 1987)

If it applied to…People with severe cortical lesionsTap to see

They'd lose protection from pain. If experience depends exclusively on the cortex, patients with extensive cortical damage wouldn't suffer

Medicine treats these patients' pain, and there's evidence that subcortical structures are enough for basic affective states

If it applied to…Other people in generalTap to see

Anyone could be treated as an automaton. There's no direct access to anyone's mind; other people's pain is always an inference

This is the old problem of other minds, and no one applies it to their own family

If it applied to…Beings with different biologyTap to see

An extraterrestrial life form without neurons like ours could be tortured even if it showed every sign of suffering

Shows that the relevant criterion is functional evidence of experience, not anatomical similarity

If it applied to…The arguer's own dogTap to see

Running it over or operating without anesthesia would be a matter of indifference. If animal pain is just reflex, that holds for all animals, not just the ones on the plate

Almost no one accepts this consequence, which shows the doubt is selective

Contradictions

Has their own animal anesthetized.

Those who say animals don't feel pay for anesthesia to neuter their dog and for painkillers after surgery.

Accepts biomedical research.

Human painkillers and anesthetics are tested on animals because their pain is assumed to work much like ours.

Recognizes emotions when convenient.

The same person says the dog "got jealous", "is happy" or "missed us", and denies similar states to the pig.

Supports anti-cruelty laws.

Punishing someone who beats an animal only makes sense if the animal suffers.

Uses the argument only for the animals they eat.

Doubt about sentience rarely reaches dogs and cats.

What the argument gets right

What is true

The distinction between nociception and pain is real and important: not every reaction to a harmful stimulus involves conscious experience, and a plant closing its leaves isn't suffering. Caution against projecting human feelings onto anything that moves is also healthy. And there are real differences between species: a fish's experience is probably not the same as a pig's, nor a pig's the same as ours. About more distant invertebrates, such as insects, scientific uncertainty is still large, and the book doesn't pretend otherwise.

But

The mistake lies in turning difference into absence and uncertainty into license. The moral question isn't whether the animal feels exactly as we do, but whether there's someone there for whom it is bad. For the animals we raise and kill in the greatest numbers, the evidence that there is someone is strong.

Connections

Usually comes before

A3 Animals don't have language.From the lack of report to denying the experience
A4 Animals don't have souls.The Cartesian version: no soul, no mind
A1 Animals aren't rational.From the lack of reasoning to the lack of sentience
A5this argument

Usually comes after

A6 Fish and invertebrates don't feel pain.The last frontier of the same argument
A19 Vegans anthropomorphize animals.A reaction to the evidence of emotions
A16 Killing without pain isn't harm.Concedes the pain and shifts to death
B1 There is humane slaughter.Concedes the pain and shifts to the method
A15 Where do you draw the line? Insects? Bacteria?If many feel, an exact boundary is demanded
A22 Humans suffer more than animalsOnce pain is admitted, its intensity is debated

Go deeper in Questão de Ética

Chapters from the open-access collection A Journey Through Animal Ethics that discuss this argument in more detail:

References

Provisional author-date format. The links indicate the sources checked in writing this chapter.

Declarations and reviews

Studies and debate

Psychology

Philosophy

  • Facing up to the problem of consciousness. Journal of Consciousness Studies, 2(3).
  • Discourse on Method, part V.