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A16

"Killing without pain isn't harm."

The answer in one sentence

death harms the one who dies because it takes away all the good experiences they would still have had. That's why killing a person in their sleep, without pain or fear, is still one of the worst wrongs there are. Farmed animals are killed very young, far from the natural end of their lives, and lose almost everything they had ahead of them. A painless death removes the suffering of the moment, not the harm.

Short answer

Death harms the one who dies because it takes away everything they would still live. That's why killing a person in their sleep, without pain, is a very serious crime and not a neutral act. Animals don't make plans for next year, but they have a future of good experiences, and they lose that future when they're killed. And farmed animals are killed very young: they lose almost all the life they would have had.

For children

Imagine someone takes a puppy from your house while he's asleep, and he never wakes up. He didn't feel any pain. But he lost all the walks, the games and the cuddles he was still going to have. That's bad for him, not just for you. It's the same with farm animals: even without pain, they lose the whole life they had ahead of them.

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"Doesn't killing someone in their sleep, without pain, harm that person?"

Como pode aparecer

"If it didn't suffer, what's the problem?"
Everyday conversation
"They don't know they're going to die."
Everyday conversation
"They have no sense of the future."
Everyday conversation
"It died without noticing, better than dying of disease."
Social media
"Do you think the chicken makes plans for next year?"
Rhetorical question
"The problem is suffering, not death." (which leads to B1)
Welfarist version
"Beings without time-relative interests aren't harmed by a painless death."
Academic version
"A chicken has a short life anyway, so killing it is a small harm."
Everyday conversation
"A pig doesn't read or listen to music; its life is worth less."
Everyday conversation
"If the animal goes to a better place, killing it doesn't harm it."
Religious version
"They had a good life and a quick death." (which is B5)
Disguised version

The strongest version

How it is said

"If the animal didn't suffer, what's the problem? It doesn't even know it's going to die."

Strongest version (steelman):

  1. P1Something only harms someone if it's experienced as bad.
  2. P2An instant, painless death isn't experienced: after it, there's no one left to miss anything.
  3. P3Animals have no plans or awareness of their own future, so they lose nothing they already desired.
  4. CSo killing an animal painlessly doesn't harm it.

The strong version has a long history. Epicurus already said that death is nothing to us, because when it is here, we are not. And P3 appears in serious authors, who distinguish beings with and without awareness of their own future.

The argument is valid. Its soundness fails at P1, which no one accepts in their own case, and at P3, which confuses desiring the future with having a future to lose.

Full answer

  1. a

    Reconstruction and diagnosis

    The argument depends on an idea about what it is to be harmed. There are two answers in philosophy:

    ViewWhat makes death badConsequence
    Experiential (Epicurus)Only what is felt can be badA painless death would harm no one, not even humans
    Deprivation (Nagel)Death is bad because it takes away the goods life would still have broughtDeath harms anyone who had a good future ahead

    The argument uses the first view for animals and the second for humans. Whoever thinks killing a person in their sleep harms them has already accepted the deprivation view, and it applies to any being with a future of experiences.

  2. b

    Where the argument breaks

    1. No one accepts P1 in their own case.

    If only what is felt harms, killing a healthy person while they sleep wouldn't be bad for them. Almost everyone rejects that conclusion, and that's exactly why the philosopher Thomas Nagel argued, in 1970, that death is bad because of what it deprives us of.

    2. You don't need to plan the future to lose it.

    A baby makes no plans, and yet their death takes a whole life from them. What matters isn't desiring the future, but having a future of good experiences that death eliminates.

    3. Farmed animals lose almost everything.

    Broiler chickens and pigs are slaughtered with a fraction of the life they would have had. On the deprivation view, the loss is proportional to the future taken, and in their case it's almost the whole life.

    4. The argument doesn't address suffering.

    Even if accepted, it would concern only the moment of death. Confinement, mutilations and separation from offspring would still be harm (B1, B2).

    5. It's used selectively.

    No one accepts the painless death of a healthy dog as neutral. The argument only shows up when the victim is a farmed animal.

    6. Intellectual pleasures aren't the only ones that count.

    To say a pig loses little by dying because it doesn't read or listen to music, you'd have to show that non-intellectual pleasures are worth almost nothing. But being with those you're fond of, eating, playing and resting in the sun are worth a lot, to us as well. And seeing a loved one again after years isn't an intellectual pleasure, and may be worth more than many intellectual activities.

    7. Little time ahead isn't little to lose.

    We don't accept that killing an old person is a small harm just because they have fewer years ahead. Besides, broiler chickens are slaughtered at around six weeks, when they could live for years: they lose almost all their possible life. And there are indications that small animals perceive time faster, which would make their lives longer on the inside than they look from the outside.

    8. The hypothesis of a better life after death doesn't authorize killing.

    We don't know whether it exists or whether it would be better. We do know, on the other hand, what the animal's life would be like if it went on living. And no one accepts this reasoning for killing happy humans.

  3. c

    Data and sources

    SourceWhat it saysNote
    Nagel, *Death* (1970)Death is bad for the one who dies because it deprives them of the goods life would still have broughtNoûs, 4(1); the origin of the so-called deprivation view
    McMahan, *The Ethics of Killing* (2002)Proposes the time-relative interest account: the gravity of death depends on the future lost and the psychological connection to itOxford University Press; basis of the strongest counter-reply
    Epicurus, Letter to Menoeceus"Death is nothing to us"Origin of the experiential view
    *A Journey Through Animal Ethics*, vol. III, ch. 4To conclude that death barely harms those without intellectual pleasures, you'd have to show the other pleasures are worth almost nothingBasis for point 6
    *A Journey Through Animal Ethics*, vol. III, ch. 10Having little time left doesn't make death a small harm; subjective time perception may be faster in small animalsBasis for point 7
    *A Journey Through Animal Ethics*, vol. III, ch. 13Uncertainty about an afterlife doesn't justify killing someone who has a good lifeBasis for point 8
  4. d

    The strongest counter-reply: an animal's death is a lesser harm

    The most serious version accepts the deprivation view but says the harm of death also depends on the psychological connection between a being and its future. Jeff McMahan called these time-relative interests: those with plans, memory and self-awareness lose more by dying. Animals would have a weaker connection, and so their death would be a lesser harm than an adult human's.

  5. e

    Why the counter-reply doesn't reach the conclusion

    A lesser harm is still a harm.

    The counter-reply abandons the conclusion "killing without pain isn't harm" and starts discussing how much harm it is. It no longer authorizes killing.

    The harm has to be weighed against the benefit.

    On the other side is a pleasure of taste (J11). Even a reduced harm weighs more.

    The same account would downgrade humans.

    Babies and people with advanced dementia also have a weak psychological connection to the future. Almost no one accepts that killing them is a lesser harm (A11, A12).

    Animals have a connection to the future.

    Many remember, anticipate and have stable preferences. The difference is one of degree, not of kind.

Reasoning errors

Logical

Is the form valid?

Proves too much
If it held, killing a person in their sleep wouldn't harm them
Double standard
Uses the experiential view for animals and the deprivation view for humans

Epistemological

Does the evidence support it?

Confusing desiring with having
Assumes only those who plan the future can lose it

Moral

Is the criterion coherent?

Reducing harm to pain
Ignores the deprivation caused by death
Silence about suffering
Talks about the moment of death and ignores the life before it

Biases

The meat paradox

Attributing less mind to the animals we eat makes their death less troubling

Loughnan, Haslam and Bastian, 2010

Cognitive dissonance

The tension between liking animals and eating them is eased by denying that death harms them

Linked to E8 and A19

In-group bias

A human's death is a harm; an animal's isn't

Caviola, Everett and Faber, 2019

Extrapolations

The principle being tested is: "a painless death doesn't harm the one who dies".

If it applied to…People asleepTap to see

Killing them without their noticing wouldn't be bad for them

Contradicts one of our firmest moral judgments

If it applied to…BabiesTap to see

Killing them painlessly wouldn't harm them, because they make no plans

No one accepts this

If it applied to…PetsTap to see

Putting down a healthy dog painlessly would be neutral

Animal advocates and guardians reject this

If it applied to…People without familyTap to see

If no one missed them and there were no pain, the death would have no victim

The harm belongs to the one who loses their life

Contradictions

Considers killing someone in their sleep a crime.

The absence of pain has never been a mitigating factor.

Mourns the early death of a pet.

Even when the pet didn't suffer, the loss is felt as the pet's own.

Protects babies, who make no plans.

The lack of projects doesn't reduce their protection.

Values their own life for what they'll still live.

No one would accept being killed painlessly for having no plans for tomorrow.

What the argument gets right

What is true

There's something right here. Pain and fear at the moment of death are real harms, and reducing them matters. The philosophy of death is also genuinely difficult, and there's serious debate about how much death harms different beings. It's reasonable to think that the death of a being with long life projects may be, in some sense, a greater loss.

But

But none of this makes death a non-harm. Whoever dies loses everything they would still live, and farmed animals lose almost their whole life. A painless death is better than a painful one; it isn't better than staying alive.

Connections

Usually comes before

B1 There is humane slaughter.The hidden premise of humane slaughter
B6 Without farming, these animals wouldn't even exist.If giving life doesn't authorize taking it, people deny that death harms
A12 Human babies have the potential to be rational.The discussion turns to the gravity of death
A22 Humans suffer more than animalsIf the suffering is smaller, death is debated
A16this argument

Usually comes after

A1 Animals aren't rational.If death is a harm, people claim animals don't understand their own lives
B5 They had a good life and a quick death.Combines painless death with the promise of a good life
A10 They're just animals.When asked why it would hold only for animals

Go deeper in Questão de Ética

Chapters from the open-access collection A Journey Through Animal Ethics that discuss this argument in more detail:

References